12 Replies Latest reply on Dec 28, 2009 7:28 PM by Minami

    Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system

    Minami

      Hi,

       

      I was wondering if the lastest FW update and the tool box software are of any use to my sata 1 system that runs on XP. Will I be able to run TRIM, even manually or anything that will improve the performance of the SSD?

       

      Thank you for your advice in advance.

        • 1. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
          rick7653

          Why bother? You are defeating the whole purpose of the drive. You aren't going to gain anything. You would have been better served by buying 2 regular sata1 drives and using raid. Would have been faster than the sata2 ssd in sata 1 mode.

          • 2. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
            Minami

            Rick,

             

            Thank you for your helpful advice. Your idea of 2 x ssd is indeed interesting, but I am using my solo SSD in a notebook. So 2 x ssd or upgrading the sata interface is out of question for my current configuration.  (sorry I did not provide this info earlier.) I am happy with the performance as it is now, but thought if there is any gain in the performance with the update, I will go through the hassle. Otherwise, I will give it a miss, given all the problems associated with the update.

            • 3. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
              rick7653

              I didnt say 2 sdd's. I said 2 regular $70.00 hdd's. Regular hard drives. You realize of course that SATA 1 is capped at 150mbs So really for the price you kinda wasted your dough. As far as performance, when I ran the optimizer after the firmware update my drive access time was way better. Since you are using a laptop 2 HDD's are out of the question i guess.

              • 4. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                Mr.Wolf

                Minami,

                Your sdd will be faster upgrading the FW and running the optimizer.

                If you don't run the optimier, file performance will drop over time.

                You will notice it even if you are limited to sata 150.

                 

                If you run optimizer, your drive will have always top performance.

                Notice that the intel top WRITE speed (from specs. 80MB/s - 100MB/s) is allways bellow your sata 150MB/s interface limit, so you need trim and optimizer if you dont want write speed to go bellow specs.

                • 5. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                  ZXTT95

                  Even assuming RAID is an option, one SSD is far better than two drives in RAID 0:

                   

                  With the SSD you have significantly better access time, which is what will determine most of the perfomance improvement over a normal drive.  You should maintain most of this performance with SATA 1.5Gb/s.

                   

                  Raid 0 doubles your risk of losing data from drive failure.

                  • 6. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                    Minami

                    Hi Rick!

                    Thanks again! Yes, I understand the cap on SATA1 but went ahead with SSD anyway because of its other benefits, e.g.,, power consumption, weight, and shock resistance. Most importnat of all, I need the quick access time, as I constantly need to search full-text search on dictionaries and PDF files.

                    • 7. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                      Minami

                      Good morning Mr Wolf!

                       

                      Thanks for the useful advice. I will go ahead with the update, though it's kind of scary given so much negative feedback on the update process. Can you tell me the worst scenario that can happen when such a update fail? Will it render the SSD totally unusuable? Is there any good, detailed info on the update process on this forum (I am a total layman, as you can judge from my questions)? Thank you very much!

                      • 8. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                        Minami

                        Hi ZXTT,

                         

                        Thank you for your advice. Acess time is indeed very important for me. Cheers!

                        • 9. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                          Mr.Wolf

                          Before doing the FW updade, you should backup your data, either clone your drive to another HD or just backup MyDocuments, Favorites, emails, etc.

                          It's allways good to have backups of your personal files/information, everyting else can be reinstalled, but not your personal files.

                          The firmware update is not going to erase the data, but it's better to be prepared than sorry.

                           

                          I've only read about 2 issues when ppl tried to upgrade to last 02HD FW:

                          1. The FW upgrade software can not find the SSD because of computer bios settings. There is no problem with this, simple you can not upgrade in this situation. You need to follow intel readme.txt instructions and change bios settings until it works or you need to do the upgrade in another computer.

                          2. I remember reading that some ppl got an error saing the fw upgrade was not complete, but after booting it was ok... I cant remember if this was only with 02HA, but In this the case, they rerun the FW upgrade and it told them they already had the last FW. It looks like the drive has upgraded, just gave an error at the end of the process....if this bothers you, just search and try to read about it. I can not comment on this, I dont know what happend in this few cases.

                           

                          The reports I read about some drive failures were only upgrading the firmware 02HA, intel removed this FW and fixed the problem in 02HD.

                          I didn't read anyone loosing their drives when upgrading to the last firmware 02HD.

                           

                          You can read about people experiences with 02HD here:

                          http://communities.intel.com/thread/8865?start=0&tstart=30

                          You will find some reports from ppl that broke their drive with 02HA and could not fix it with 02HD.

                           

                          Backup and follow intel instructions (readme.txt in download page), they explain how to do the FW upgrade.

                          • 10. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                            Minami

                            Hi Mr Wolf,

                            Good morning! Very grateful for your detailed reply. I will give it a try and report back. Cheers!

                            • 11. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                              Mr.Wolf

                              Forgot to mention, maybe it's a good ideia to run a bench before the FW upgrade, after FW upgrade and after you run the optimizer.

                              So you can see what really happens to your performace.

                               

                              Try AS SSD, it gives a total score to fast compare results and you can also save the screen results to a jpg file for later use:

                              http://www.alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/downloads.php?cat_id=4&download_id=9

                              • 12. Re: Latest FW update any good for XP, Sata 1 system
                                Minami

                                Mr Wolf,

                                My update was successful, but I received your message only upon bootup. I do have some data using DiskMark though, and will try to do a comparison and post the result here.

                                However, I now have problem installing the toolbox, and the error messages are as follows:

                                Error Message.png

                                Error Message2.png

                                 

                                Have you seen such an error before?

                                Cheers