10 Replies Latest reply on Mar 17, 2010 5:55 AM by Flying_Kiwi

    DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan

    Alphad

      The CPU Fan locks itself in a High RPM lock state after 1-2 days of uptime.  Rebooting the machined will cause the fan to run in normal mode, but again it will lock in a high RPM state after 1-2 days. I noticed when the fans are locked in a high RPM state, HWMonitor no longer sees the HECI sensor (see attached image).

       

      FW: 117

      OS: Win7 x64

       

      The MB has been swapped out once already, but the new one has the same problem.

       

      Problem is being noticed by others in this linked forum:

      http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17401307#post17401307

       

      Has anyone found a solution?

        • 1. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
          Alphad

          When I recently stopped using esata, the issue with the the fan locking at a high RPM went away. 2.5 days now without the high rpm issue which is a new record.

          I had a WD My Book plugged into the esata port.  There appears to be a bug in the DG45ID's esata implementation.

          • 2. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
            dom76

            I have a very similar issue. The fan lock into its high RPM state, the PC is impossible to shut down and a restart from that state behaves like the BIOS flash restart ie it powers off totally for a few seconds and then turns on again - not good for the hard disk drives!

             

            I dont have any eSATA device

             

            Windows 7 X86

            • 3. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
              Alphad

              I spoke to soon. After 4 days the CPU fan once again locked in a high RPM state without any esata drives plugged in.

               

              When this issue occurs, I notice that HWMonitor is unable to read the HECI sensors.  Maybe someone at Intel can use this information to find a fix.

              • 4. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                LuMacala

                I confirm this problem.

                My actual configuration is:

                DG45ID + Q9400S + 4x2G Kingston HyperX DDR2 800MHz CL4 + 1 eSATA HD + LG DVD+&-R/RW

                No Internal HD, 2 Fan: CPU+Front Fan.

                With Old E5300 CPU And 2x512MB+2x2GB PC2-5300 667MHz and previous bios version I've no problem.

                After Bios update to 117 and new CPU and ram installation, the cpu and front fan lock at high rpm after 2/3 days and after this HWMonitor can't detect motherboard data but only the cores and HD temperatures and if I shutdown the os, the system does not power off. If I force power off and restart all is normal for 2/3 day when the problem reappear.

                • 5. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                  Alphad

                  This issue still exists in the latest 127 bios, however not as often.  The problem seems to be related to the QST.

                  • 6. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                    Flying_Kiwi

                    I'm also getting this problem with my DG45ID and E8500 and the latest shiny new 127 BIOS. I've tracked it down to changes made after the 111 BIOS as 113 and newer exhibit the problem but 111 does not. I do not want to have to revert to 111 as the latest BIOS has a newer Graphics BIOS module so presumably there are improvements to be had.

                    What does QST mean - I suspect it's SATA related as in my case it seems to occur when the HDDs (using onboard RAID 0+1 with 4 x Samsung 1 TB F1 HDDs) are being written to (although it's hard to be sure. It'll usually happen within a day in my case and all the same behaviors occur when its in the high fan speed state such as Intel Desktop Utilities not being able to read the variables of the board, restarts which momentarily power off the board and shutdowns which wont power it off. Given this problem has been going on for months now, I'm wondering whats so hard about looking at the changes between BIOS 111 and 113 to narrow down the relevant piece of code that's throwing the spanner in the works and correcting it?

                     

                    Maybe one of the Intel people can comment about it?

                    • 7. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                      dom76

                      Removing the noisy capacitor might have affected part of the PWM control. They probably fixed that issue by changing the power scheme... I highly doubt they can fix the PWM issue. I bought another Mobo and to be honest will never buy another intel product except for CPU... This DG45ID is collecting dust in my basement!

                      • 8. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                        Flying_Kiwi

                        I don't know which part was making the high pitched squeal (only narrowed it down to within a few components) but this fan high speed locking problem occurred on my old AA rev 307 board as well as the new 310 rev I have (which doesn't make the component noise) so it seems to be a clear indication of a problem with the newer than ver 111 BIOS files to me. If the older version does not exhibit the problem and newer versions do (on identical hardware), what other assumption can be drawn?

                        • 9. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                          Alphad

                          I agree that the problem appears to be with BIOS versions newer than 111.  I also noticed when the problem manifests itself, CPU-Z cannot read information (temp, fan speed, voltage, etc) from the "Intel HECI" sensors.  Somehow the Intel Management Engine (ME) appears to stop functioning.  Since the QST is controlled by the ME, it stops functioning and causes the CPU fan locks at a high RPM rate thus creating excess noise.

                           

                          Manually disabling QST in the ME setup (ctrl-p during POST) causes the CPU fan to be locked into a high RPM state.  This is why I believe there is a bug in any bios version >0111 that causes the ME to become non-functional.

                           

                          On a side note: With BIOS 0127 I noticed that the above issue has manifested itself (twice) within hours of my turning off my monitor (usually I let the monitor go into standby mode). My monitor is connected via DVI and has a USB hub in which a bluetooth USB adapter is connected.  When I turn the monitor off, the hub and bluetooth also get turned off. I do not know if the this is coincidental as I have not tested it any further.

                           

                          My MB revision is currently 310, but I had the problem on an older 307.

                          • 10. Re: DG45ID High RPM lock state of CPU fan
                            Flying_Kiwi

                            In the same screen that you can press ctrl-P during start up, my system with BIOS 111 (I've now reverted for greater stability - a sad indictment on those responsible for these newer Intel BIOS files) reads:

                            Intel Management Engine BIOS Extension 5.0.5.0004

                            Intel ME Firmware version 5.0.2.1129

                             

                            What are the differences with BIOS 127 (or even 113) in this regard... I think that's where the problem is. The restart under the high fan RPM scenario even behaves the same as when configuration changes are made in here.