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    Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??

    cassis

      Hello,

       

      I have just setup my new computer with Win7 installed on a WD Velociraptor 300GB and an intel SSD X25-M 160GB where I installed Flight Simulator.  When I first launched Windows 7, it did not show my SSD in "My Computer" and I had to go to "Disk Management" to select the SSD Drive and "activated" it in NTFS. Now everything seems fine.

       

      Now, I wanted to instal the SSD Toolbox to optimize my drive. In the bios, all SATA drives are set with IDE. Unfortunately, when I launcg the SSD Toolbox, it says that the SSD drive is not compatible with the tool..... what's going on ?

       

      Thank you

       

      Greg

        • 1. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
          panosrxo

          It needs Ahci mode.

          • 2. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
            cassis

            .... but everybody says they changed their BIOS to IDE ?

             

            I f I really need to change my BIOS settings to AHCI, will this affect anthing in my installation or is it really safe to change the BIOS settings to AHCI ?  Also, do I have to keep it to AHCI all the time ?  Nothing toi change in Win7 ?

             

            Thank you

            • 3. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
              cassis

              I have just my BIOS settings to AHCI (after having modify the Win7 registryaccordingl). My computer runs fine but STILL, the toolbow says "this tool is not supported on the selected drive"......

              • 4. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                panosrxo

                I dont know, maybe there is a problem with the toolbox too. Anyway with windows 7 you dont need the toolbox. Trim is supposed to work automatically.

                Have you updated to the new firmware?

                • 5. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                  cassis

                  Actually I have just bought new components and have connected my SSD to a SATA port like my 2 other standard HDD.  I have only "activated the SSD" in Windows7 because at the first start of the PC it did not show in "My Computer"....  On the box, it says that the SSD manufacture date is Aug2009 and I did not update any firmware...  I don't even know if Win7 recognize it as a SSD....  What shall I do ?

                   

                  Thank a lot

                  • 6. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                    panosrxo

                    Don't do anything then.  Everything you say is normal. Just wait for a new firmware in order to enable trim...

                    • 7. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                      cassis

                      But howcome I am the only one in the world who can't run this Intel Tool on my SSD drive.... How come it says "tool not supported".. ?

                      • 8. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                        panosrxo

                        I believe it's due to the fact that everyone else has updated to the new firmware...which was then cancelled. So again dont worry. I would be really happy to be in your situation.

                        • 9. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                          Ziggy
                          When I first launched Windows 7, it did not show my SSD in "My Computer" and I had to go to "Disk Management" to select the SSD Drive and "activated" it in NTFS.

                           

                          This is perfectly normal for most newly installed drives, SSD or mechanical.

                           

                           

                          But howcome I am the only one in the world who can't run this Intel Tool on my SSD drive.... How come it says "tool not supported".. ?

                           

                          You already answered your own question...

                           

                          I did not update any firmware...

                           

                          TRIM is not supported unless you have the latest firmware.

                           

                           

                          Intel have pulled the new firmware amidst reports that it is bricking drives. Be patient and I'm sure we will have news soon. Even for those of us who are running the latest firmware, there is always that nagging doubt that it is going to screw the hardware so we are all in the same boat to some extent.

                           

                          I'd recommend that you keep your controller in AHCI mode also. Some people would have had to run the firmware updater in IDE mode. It does not mean that this is necessary for normal operation.

                          • 10. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                            cassis

                            Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer...  However, I have launched FSX on my SSD as usual and it took for ever to launch......  therefore, I have rechanged the MSAHCI registry in Win7 to "START 3" and revert back to IDE in Bios and my program start quick again......  Do you know why the programs takes much longer to launch in AHCI mode ?  Can I do anything about that ?  If not, what's the point of changing to this mode ?

                             

                            Thanks again

                            • 11. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                              Ziggy

                              At the moment, you are using the SSD only for FSX, right? So you might want to keep controller in AHCI, go back into disk management and delete the drive then re-create the logical drive under AHCI. Will take less than a minute.

                               

                              AHCI is required to enable many of the SATA specific commands. IDE mode is used mainly when you have compatibility issues.

                               

                              You can run into problems when you change controller modes without rebuilding / refromatting drives, particularly when popping in and out of RAID.

                              • 12. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                                cassis

                                Ok thanks will try that.  BTW, when you select AHCI in Bios, it affects all hard drives (you can't just select AHCI only for the SSD) , right ?

                                • 13. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                                  yorickdowne

                                  You are correct. AHCI is a controller setting, and affects all devices attached to that controller.

                                   

                                  You are also, for the time being, best off using the Microsoft generic AHCI drivers instead of the Intel drivers.

                                  • 14. Re: Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??
                                    Ziggy

                                    That is correct. It will affect all drives on the system. Best to start with AHCI or RAID when installing drives / OS. I only use IDE mode myself with certain DOS boot disk HDD tools for disabling (or enabling) low level commands such as acoustic management and the like. If you do find yourself having to run under IDE mode for firmware updates or tweaking commands it's good idea to pop back into BIOS after you have finished and set the controller to AHCI / RAID before the OS boots. That way the OS remains blissfully unaware that a change was ever made.

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