13 Replies Latest reply on Oct 23, 2015 6:55 PM by jonathan_intel

    SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.

    XORROR

      Good evening! I have a question concerning support for SSD 750 PCI-Ex motherboard chipset X79. Not so long ago I was thinking about buying this card (SATA - is not seen as outdated and resembles an echo IDE), as the current software requires a radical solution for speed and other things, but Googling forums, I realized that X79 motherboards are not included in the support this device and work as a boot device it will not be (((. The question is - the X99 chipset so different from the X79? built-in support USB3?

      Frankly speaking I do not feel the need to go to the X79 X99 for a few% performance increase. What is the problem that the literary manager for chipsets only support 9* Series? It is not the desire to Intel or me (us PC users) should apply to the producers of our boards requesting the release of UEFI-BIOS with support NVMe and drives them? Or is it some kind of hardware problem?

        • 1. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
          jonathan_intel

          Hello XORROR.

           

          The Intel® SSD 750 Series (Released 2015) is a PCIe* Gen3 x4, NVM Express* 1.0  device. A system based on an Intel® Z97 Chipset or an Intel® X99 Chipset (both released in 2014) are recommended, specially since motherboards with these chipsets or newer are more likely to have the PCIe 3.0 x4 connector and uEFI 2.3.1 BIOS required for the drive's proper operation.

          * PCIe 2.0 may be used with the SSD as secondary data drive, but this will reduce the performance.

           

          The Intel® SSD 750 Series have been tested with selected motherboards, however, not every available configuration has been tested.

           

          As can be seen in the drive's Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Before you buy advisory and Product Specifications, A system based on an Intel® Z97 Chipset, Intel® X99 Chipset or newer is "required" to boot from the drive, and "suggested" if the SSD is used as secondary drive.

           

          This drive has not been tested with systems using the Intel® X79 Chipset (released 2011), so we cannot guarantee it will operate operate properly in this type of systems. We advise you to check with the Motherboard's support to confirm if your motherboard meets the requirements mentioned in the documents linked before.

          • 2. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
            XORROR

            Good evening jonathan_intel!

            Thank you very much for the answer, but that's not the answer that I needed. Perhaps this is an error of interpretation or not true, I expressed my idea. I am wondering whether there are any obstacles to the use of hardware SSD 750 PCI-E on the X79, or is it purely a question is in the plane? Theoretically, the SSD was released later as X79 and X99 platforms, and therefore I do not understand if there is hardware obstacles to its use. Apparently Intel following its policy has already written off the scrap as the X79 platform obsolete, it is really a pity.

            With regard to these terbovany you, this motherboard should fully comply with them http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X79%20Extreme9/index.us.asp?cat=Specifications. Judging by the read on the forum, many PC users refuse to buy 750 and 3 *** versions, because they are not bootable, and somewhere in a forum wrote that the support NVMe in UEFI starts with version 2.4 (or better 2.5) perhaps even you will agree that to take this device as an accumulator (storage) makes no sense.

            • 3. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
              jonathan_intel

              Hello XORROR,

               

              From the hardware perspective (form factor, type of connector, etc), there are no obstacles for you to use the Intel® SSD 750 Series in motherboards with Intel® X79 chipset. However, the requirements listed in links provided before are needed for proper operation: PCIe* Gen3 x4, uEFI 2.3.1, NVME support, etc.

               

              Please consider that motherboards based on the Intel® Z97 Chipset and Intel® X99 Chipset are recommended, and even some of those motherboards may not be designed to work with these new drives. Intel® SSD 750 Series are not certified to operate in motherboards using previous generation chipsets, since most of those motherboards may not have the features required for the optimal functionality of the drive. Systems that do not meet the recommended requirements could use SATA SSDs as boot devices.

               

              If you plan to use the Intel® SSD 750 Series in your X79 chipset motherboard, we strongly advise you to contact the Motherboard manufacturer, so they can confirm if the motherboard is able to operate with the new drive.

              • 4. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                XORROR

                Hi Jonathan! Thank you for answers and explanations! If I understood everything correctly, the main problem is not the desire to motherboard manufacturers provide software support products * 7 Series and other no-bottlenecking. Well I will write to the ASRock.

                Maybe it's silly, but I still ask you to Jonathan, if you have the opportunity to ask someone of your colleagues verify this compatibility at least for family motherboards from Intel, if you it will not be difficult.)))

                And it turns out like this - you want a fast SSD from Intel - do not forget to bring a 2-3K $ to the new system (PC).

                • 5. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                  jonathan_intel

                  Hello XORROR,

                   

                  I am glad that the information provided helped you clarify your inquiry. We hope this helps other users as well.

                  We appreciate your feedback regarding compatibility notes and will consider it for the future.

                  • 6. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                    XORROR

                    Hi Jonathan! I have a question that I can not on Google, and that would not produce new themes I decided to write here well.

                    Perhaps it will seem to you RUTFs, but still: Why so different speed read and write large files, depending on the controller? From the amount of memory (size, disk space)? If you believe the reviews for 750 is the same controller as in P3700, but the write speed for large files very different or is it done on purpose?

                    The second question is a large file blocks are written more evenly than small or they are written in a random order, because the speed of read / write access to both large and small files is huge?

                    It is difficult to find a useful link with a good description of the operating principle.

                    • 7. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                      jonathan_intel

                      Hello XORROR,

                       

                      There are many factors to consider when comparing performance values between SSDs. I am not entirely sure I understood your question, but here are some pointers about this topic:

                       

                      - The Intel® SSD DC P3700 Series is a Data Center driver, meant to be used in Enterprise systems, it has additional hardware components for enhanced reliability and performance. The Intel® SSD 750 Series is considered a consumer device and does not have some of the features provided by the P3700. In most situations the P3700 will perform better than the 750 series.

                       

                      - When you compare performance, always compare similar values, for example:

                       

                      Sequential test results are measured in MB/s (Megabytes per second), Random test results are expressed in IOPS (Input-output operations per second).

                      Sequential tests normally use 128 KB transfer size, Random tests use 4 KB or 8 KB transfer size.

                      Drives of the same family but with different capacity will normally have different performance ratings.

                       

                      You will find a lot of useful information in the following document as it explains the benchmarking principles and how it can be measured:

                       

                      Intel® SSD 750 Series - Performance Evaluation Guide

                       

                      You can check performance data for the drives in the product specifications: Intel® SSD DC P3700 Series, Intel® SSD 750 Series.

                      • 8. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                        XORROR

                        Huge thank you Jonathan! I will read at your leisure!

                        The main question was why so much different speed/read (MB/s) and writing large files. As I understand from your answer in case additional hardware.

                        • 9. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                          Memotz

                          Hello Jonathan!

                          I have a question about can intel750 be installed in HP360G7?

                          Thanks

                          • 10. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                            JFFulcrum

                            HP added NVMe support only with Gen9 of their server platforms.

                            • 11. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                              Memotz

                              I just want to store my mariadb database in intel 750.

                              Can i do such like this:mount /var/lib/mysql ?

                              • 12. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                                JFFulcrum

                                Well, G7 have a PCIE Gen2 slots, so performance will be limited (at least at sequental reads).  Also, there can be a HW/BIOS compatibility troubles, due to old platform (G7 was based on i5520shipset, year 2009 piece of hardware).

                                • 13. Re: SSD 750 PCI-E & X79.
                                  jonathan_intel

                                  Hello Memotz,

                                   

                                  As JFFulcrum mentioned, the operation of PCIe* NVMe* drives has not been certified with systems using the Intel® 5520 Chipset .

                                   

                                  In this case, you might want to check with the Computer Manufacturer Support if they have tested your server model with this type of SSD's.

                                   

                                  I would like to add that the Intel® SSD 750 Series is a consumer drive designed for performance, and it is not meant to be used for write-intensive usage nor Data Center Environments.

                                   

                                  Since you plan to use the SSD to hold database files, we would advise to consider a drive of the Intel® SSD Data Center Family for NVMe*, that are designed for read- and write-intensive storage workloads in data center environments. Currently, there are different PCIe* NVMe* series that exceed the endurance capabilities of the 750. For example: Intel® SSD DC P3500 Series, Intel® SSD DC P3600 Series, Intel® SSD DC P3608 Series and Intel® SSD DC P3700 Series.