11 Replies Latest reply on Jun 10, 2015 12:45 AM by Nemzag

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature

    Nemzag

      Hi, I buyed the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 O.E.M at Amazon the 25-04-2015, I re‑ceived it the monday 11-05-2015. I buyed my E30307-001 new one month ago at Ebay. When I re‑ceived end of April, I checked the pre‑ap‑plied Thermal In‑ter‑face Material and it was clean & new...

      Now, when I use my C.P.U at idle in windows 5% the temperature is 36°C, I had a Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3GHz and at idle he had 29°C & 61°C at full‑load...

      I noticed using HWINFO64, that one of the core the #0 is 6~7°C hotter than the coolest core and 3~5°C hotter than the two others Cores...

      I tested in games the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 (EPS12V 8‑Pin) and at 100% its goes to 68°C whereas my Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (ATX12V 4‑Pin) with D60188-001 was at 61°C, so I'm asking is there a pro‑blem with the temperature of the C.P.U Q9650, does the Intel Fan E30307‑001 work well ?

      I check the speed of the fan in games with "On Screen Display" of "MSI Afterburner" & "HWINFO64"...

      The max speed I get is 2636RPM at 100% load & 67~68°C.

      But in Directron page of Intel Fan E30307-001, it's writed speed at 2500 ~ 3400 RPM...

       

      I was worry of this temperature of 68°C because the Tcase max in Q9650 ARK intel page is 71,4°C...

      So I tested the C.P.U with Intel Pro‑cessor Dia‑gnostic Tool 64bit, and he says that the "Temperature = 38 to 43 degrees C below maximum" in dif‑ferent test, but the temperature in HWINFO64 was 61°C so with 38°C of dif‑ference it's was not possible that the Tcase was 71,4°C.

      After that, I searched in Inter‑net and I read that the Q9650 have a Tjunction Max of 100°C...

      So should I need to worry of this 68°C temperature at 100% load in games ? Is my C.P.U fan working well ???

       

      In MSI Afterburner with Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3GHz (65W, 65nm), I had in O.S.D. C.P.U.1 to C.P.U.4 temperature, no more with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 (3GHz, 95W, 45nm), just C.P.U.1 to C.P.U.4 Usage, I writed to GURU3D.COM (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399032) and he ex‑plain me that all pro‑cessors are not sup‑ported... So now I use HWINFO64 to get Total C.P.U Usage & Total C.P.U Temperature & C.P.U Fan RPM.

       

      My C.P.U Fan is set to auto‑matic, I can't set it manually in P5K-E BIOS, I don't use tool to tweak my R.P.M (like SpeedFan)... There is an option in BIOS for Asus Q-Fan Con‑trol but at idle it run at 1200RPM, so the C.P.U have 50°C... With no Q-Fan, at idle the speed is 1900RPM and 36°C... And the max speed is the same with Q-Fan or not (2636RPM), still I never get the maximum of Directron page in‑formation for E30307-001...

       

      The guy of Intel sup‑port told me that : "Some core or cores can be warmer than others. The reason is: ‘not the all ap‑plications and/or pro‑grams are using all cores’. Some of them just pro‑grammed to use one core, that`s why the some of your core is warmer than others. It is normal behaviour."

      But I checked in HWINFO64 and even if the Core#0 has a lower usage he is still hotter than the others cores with more usage... So may be pre‑ap‑plied Thermal In‑ter‑face is not uni‑formly spread. I verified the fan and all screw are well locked and fixed and the E30307 fan is well fitted up‑on the pro‑cessor...

      Core #0 Usage 00.JPG

      Core #0 Usage 01.JPG

       

      So I'm asking this :

      1. Please can some‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for the E30307-001, I searched in Google but I can't find anything even in Intel page...
      2. Why can't I get the max 3400 R.P.M of my Intel E30307 fan but only 2636 R.P.M at full load ? Should the C.P.U in‑crease is temperature beyond 75°C to get it ??? My BIOS Fan is set auto-matic but Q-fan con‑trol is dis‑abled, can't set it manually in Asus P5K-E...
      3. Normally the E30307 is de‑signed for Q9650, yes or not ? (http://www.cwc-group.com/e30307.html)
      4. Which Fan is pro‑vided with the Q9650 Box version (BX80569Q9650), the E30307 or E97376 ?
      5. Is my temperature OK even if I have 10°C more at idle state & full load than with E6850 + D60188 ? For me 38°C idle & 68°C at full‑load in games is to much. (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html) (Section 7 - Relative Temperatures)...
      6. Should I change thermal‑paste, like with Arctic Silver 5, can I have better re‑sult with better thermal‑paste ? (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-performance-benchmark,3616-19.html)

       

      I made some search about fan and these are possible solution...

      1. D59961-001 (TDP 130W ?~?RPM, for 65nm) for Intel Core 2 Extreme Pro‑cessors X6800 (2,93GHz 75W) and QX6700 (2,66GHz 130 W). Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?
      2. D74883-001 (TDP 130W, ?~?RPM, for 65nm) for Intel Core 2 Extreme: QX6700 (2,66GHz 130W), QX6800 (2,93GHz 130W) & QX6850 (3,00GHz 130W) & Intel Core 2 Quad: Q6600 (2,40GHz 105W) & Q6700 (2,66GHz 105W), this one, is the blue one that suggest me a seller, he say that is better than E30307-001. Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?
      3. D99136-001 (TDP 150W, 1000~2900RPM, for 45nm) for Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor QX9650 (3,00GHz 130W), but I read that is one vibrate & make noise... Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?
      4. ??????-??? (TDP 150W, ?~?RPM, for 45nm), I would like to know the model of the fan in‑cluded in the box version of BX80569QX9770 (3,2GHz 136W), this one for me should be the best for the Q9650... Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?

       

      Also, 3 fans were re‑com‑mended by Intel sup‑port guy, even if he say that my sy‑stem temperature is fine....

      1. E30307-001 (TDP 95W, 2500~3400RPM, for 45nm) for Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 (3,00GHz 95W), that I have... Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?
      2. E21984-001 (TDP 95W, ?~?RPM, for 45nm) for Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 (2,66GHz 95W), Xeon 3320 (2,50GHz 95W) SLAWF ; this one is older than the E30307-001, I think.Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?
      3. E97376-001 (TDP 95W, ?~?RPM, for 45nm) for Intel Core 2 Quad up to 2.83 GHz Q9500 (2,83GHz 95W), Q9505 (2,83GHz 95W), Q9505S (2,83GHz 65W), Q9550 (2,83GHz 95W), Q9550S (2,83GHz 65W). Can any‑one pro‑vide me the Intel data‑sheet PDF link for this one ?

       

      So what do you think about those fans ? It's the blue one (D74883-001) best or D99136-001 for extreme QX9650 or un‑known model for the QX9770 or E97376-001 ?

      Which one is the right fan for cooling good the Q9650 at 10°C less than 68°C at full‑load in games ???

        • 1. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
          kevin_intel

          Hello Nemzag,

           

          The Fan in mentioned is the correct part number for your processor. As a matter of fact, the Fan part numbers we have for this processor are these E30307, E21984 and E97376. These parts are capable of cooling a processor of 95W as your processor is. Here you can check this information:

          http://ark.intel.com/products/35428/Intel-Core2-Quad-Processor-Q9650-12M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB

           

          From our side, I regret to say we do not have the DataSheet for Fans but you should be able to get it from the FAN manufacturer.

           

          In regards to the temperature questions, I would say the temperature you are getting (68c) is completely normal and just fine for a processor working at full load (100%) so there is nothing to worry about. It can go higher up to 90 but more than that you need to monitor it and verify the thermal paste. More than 100C can be considered as overheating issues but as mentioned before, the temperature you are getting now is completely normal.

           

          If you would like to choose another Fan different than the ones we provide or recommend, you must check the Fan can cool processor of 95W so that it will work perfect.

          • 2. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
            Nemzag

            Hi, thanks for your re‑sponse, help & feed‑back.

             

            Can I have better re‑sult using fan for Quad Extreme ? Like D74883-001, D99136-001 or the one included in BX80569QX9770 (do you know what model is) ?

             

            Which Fan is pro‑vided with the Q9650 Box version (BX80569Q9650), the E30307 or E97376 ?

             

            What do you think about my pro‑blem with Core #0 hotter than other cores even with less Core #0 usage ? Is this a pro‑blem with original thermal‑paste spreading, should I change it with better one like Arctic Silver 5 ?

             

            You tell me that I can get data‑sheet from manu‑facturer but how could I know who they are, the web seller page about these fans say just the model and Intel ???

             

            You say : "you must check the Fan can cool pro‑cessor of 95W so that it will work per‑fect.", but I think I can have better result with fan made for QX Quad Extreme at 3GHz with 130W or 150W... I'm realy interested by this one :

             

            Do you know, why can't I get the max speed for 3400RPM with E30307 ? Should my CPU temperature go beyond 75°C or what ?

             

            What is the max speed of E97376 ???

             

            Thanks, good day

            • 3. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
              kevin_intel

              The part numbers we have are E30307-001-DTC (Delta), E30307-001-FXC (Foxconn) , E30307-001-NCJ (Nidec).

              These are the part numbers we use for the processor in mentioned and the fan that comes with the processor depends on the availability of the part so it could be one of the three.

               

              If you would like to use a fan that can cool processor up to 150w you can do it, just make sure it will fit on your motherboard.

               

              In regards to the speed of the fan, this will depend on the configuration in the BIOS but if it is set as Auto, it will increase or decrease the RPMs based on the system needs.

              • 4. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                Nemzag

                Hi, Kevin_Intel thanks for your help & feed‑back, and for your in‑novative pro‑ducts.

                 

                1. Thanks for giving me the name of manu‑facturer (Delta, Foxconn, Nidec...), I'm gonna write to them for fan data‑sheet...
                2. Do you know what model is the fan in‑cluded in the box version of QX9770 3,20GHz 136W (BX80569QX9770) ? I want to use this one to cool my Q9650 3GHz 95W...
                3. You say : "If you would like to use a fan that can cool processor up to 150w you can do it, just make sure it will fit on your mother‑board.", normally the D99136 fan is socket 775 and my motherboard with BIOS 1305 can use QX9770 & QX9650 so I don't under‑stand why this fan will not fit in... I'm sure it will be good...
                4. These two fan are sold by the same seller but one is more ex‑pensive and write Quiet Fan / High per‑formance but for me they look the same... What do you think, did Intel release a quiet version of the D99136 ??? :
                5. Which Fan is better the E30307 or E97376, which have faster RPM ? (I read that E97376 is made for Intel Core 2 Quad up to 2.83 GHz Q9500 (2,83GHz 95W), Q9505 (2,83GHz 95W), Q9505S (2,83GHz 65W), Q9550 (2,83GHz 95W), Q9550S (2,83GHz 65W) but not the Q9650 (3,00GHz 95W) {Ebay bargain seller say sup‑port Q9650 to}. I ask this be‑cause the guy of Intel Support (Yakov) with who i'm talking with (https://servicerequestmgmt.intel.com/webticketui/emailpage.aspx?servicetcktnumber=8001114590&pagetype=st), pro‑posed me to re‑place my fan, he said that he would be E21984-001 or E30307 or E97376, I asked him to not send the E21984-001 be‑cause is older than E30307-001 and he is made for Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 (2,66GHz 95W), Xeon 3320 (2,50GHz 95W) SLAWF. I said to him if E97376 sup‑port 3GHz version send me that one, and I received a message (https://servicerequestmgmt.intel.com/webticketui/emailpage.aspx?ordernumber=7501716609&pagetype=rma) that he gonna send me a "Part No : E97376-001", "Product : ASSY,HTSNK,FCLGA4,PPK,SPB,FCLGA4-T", is this one good for Q9650 ???
                6. Is the E97376 newer than E30307 ? What is minimum & maximum speed ?
                7. What do you think about my pro‑blem with Core #0 hotter than other cores even with less Core #0 usage ? Is this a pro‑blem with original thermal‑paste spreading, should I change it with better one like Arctic Silver 5 or Arctic MX-4 ?
                8. Yes, my speed is set to auto‑matic in B.I.O.S (manual option un‑available) be‑cause in Windows it run at 1950RPM, in games with 60% CPU usage 2250RPM and when in‑creasing to 67°C 2636RPM (and two time for 2 seconds 2721RPM at 68°C), can this fan reach the 3400RPM theoretical maximum speed if the temperature go beyond 71°C ??? I don't use Q-Fan con‑trol from Asus be‑cause at idle it run at 1200RPM with 50°C, hotter than in auto‑matic mode with which I have 35°C & 1950RPM...

                 

                Thanks for your knowledge and assistance, good day

                • 5. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                  kevin_intel

                  The fan in the processor box depends on the availability in stick but it could be one of the fans I mentioned before.

                  The fans you are comparing are probable for higher processor wattages and the one we provide is for running the processor with default settings (no voltage or frequency changes)

                   

                  The Fan that the Intel® rep is going to send you is just fine for the processor you have so there is nothing to worry about the temperature in the processor.

                   

                  I am afraid to say that the information about the RPMs is not available from our side you can get this in the FAN datasheet.

                   

                  My recommendation is to use the Fan settings as Auto because in that way the RPMs will increase or decrease according to the temperature the processor has at that point.

                  It is important to say that since this is a dual core processor, the core temperatures will be different on each core because they work independently so it is normal to see different temperatures on the cores.

                  • 6. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                    Nemzag

                    Hi, Kevin_Intel thanks for feed‑back,

                    1. How can I know the ex‑act model of the fan in‑cluded in BX80569QX9770 ? You re‑sponse is to vague... I searched in Web but it's im‑possible to get the in‑formation about this sub‑ject so Intel is my last hope. You say that it could be fan that you mentioned be‑fore but E30307, E21984 and E97376 are made for 95W max & the QX9770 is 136W so this can not be possible.
                    2. These two fan are sold by the same seller but one is more ex‑pensive and write Quiet Fan / High per‑formance but for me they look the same... What do you think, did Intel re‑lease a quiet version of the D99136 ??? Or this is the same model ?
                    3. Which Fan is better the E30307 or E97376 ? Why in sellers page, they say about E97376 max for Quad at 2,83GHz ??? But Intel sup‑port guy and you say that it will work good with Q9650 3GHz ???
                    4. Is the E97376 newer than E30307 ? When were they both re‑leased ?
                    5. I still don't under‑stand that my Core #0 is hotter than other cores even with less Core #0 usage ? For me that is not normal... I'm sure that is a pro‑blem with original thermal‑paste spreading, be‑cause I verified and all screw are well locked and fixed and the E30307 fan is well fitted up‑on the pro‑cessor... Should I change thermalpaste, may‑be is not well spread ?
                    6. I writed yester‑day to two fan manu‑facturer (Foxconn & Delta) that you pro‑vided to me, for data‑sheet but now I don't have any re‑sponse... But really, I think that Intel should ab‑solutely add these Fan data‑sheet in their main web page in the future, it would be more use‑full and help‑full for customers, when they need in‑formations & documents... That's il‑logical that these fan have brand Intel up‑on them and the main Intel web‑page have no any in‑formation about those and that we need to con‑tact foreign manu‑facturer (that even not re‑spond) whereas the layout was probably de‑signed by Intel...

                     

                    Still, thanks for your as‑sistance, good day

                     

                    P.S (2015-05-25) : I didn't had any help from manu‑facturer (Foxconn & Delta), they even not re‑sponded to my English e‑mail, even to say that they don't have these in‑formations or data‑sheet... Very poor customers sup‑port from them, you forgot to tell me that Sanyo Denki & Fujikura made fans for Intel to...

                     

                    P.S (2015-05-27) : I re‑ceived the fan from Intel sup‑port Yakov, it's not a E97376‑001 like first e‑mail said, but a Intel E30307‑001 CN2F0233M2 F09A‑12B11S2 10AC2H3(CX) DC12V 0.20A NIDEC.

                    • 7. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                      kevin_intel

                      I think we are not in the same track here.

                      The Fan part numbers I provided to you are to cool the Q9650 processor you have as stated in the First post.

                      The QX9770 is a different processor and therefore the part numbers I provided will not work so please confirm what the processor you have is so I can provide the information you are requesting.

                       

                      Kevin m

                      • 8. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                        Nemzag

                        Hi Kevin_Intel, thanks for re‑sponding...

                         

                        In fact, I have a new Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3GHz but I'm not happy with the cooling re‑sult of the E30307-001 (one core 7°C hotter than the coolest others even with less usage) and C.P.U Total temperature at 68°C at 100% load in games, 63~64°C in Intel Pro‑cessor Dia‑gnostic Tool 64 in Windows...

                        I re‑ceived to‑day morning the new fan from Yakov of Intel sup‑port, but even the message said that he would be a E97376‑001, I re‑ceived a E30307‑001 NIDEC (max speed 2900RPM) :

                        Whereas Directron page said for E30307‑001 that the maximum speed was 3400 R.P.M... In games with previous E30307‑001 at 100% CPU usage I have 2636 R.P.M max and two time for one second 2721 R.P.M but still 68°C and for me it's to much I want to achieve 60°C...


                        So I'm planning to buy a Quad Extreme fan for cooling my Q9650 95W, I know the model for QX9650 130W it's the D99136-001 (max 2900 R.P.M) but I'm asking which model is in the box version of QX9770 BX80569QX9770 be‑cause I want to buy that 136W TDP fan for cooling my Q9650... It should be the best Intel fan I think, if he can cool 136W he will cool better a 95W than the E30307-001 (max 2900 R.P.M)...

                         

                        I ordered to‑day the Intel fan D99136-001 for 34€ (with shipping) :

                        But I wanted to know the dif‑ference with this Intel fan, more expensive (65€ with shipping) but who look the same, so I wanted to know what was the dif‑ference be‑tween them...

                         

                        Also I ordered on‑line a ArctiClean kit, and an Arctic MX-4 Thermal Past to re‑place the pre‑ap‑plied and im‑prove cooling (-4°C)... I'm waiting to re‑ceive them...

                         

                        All my questions (in pre‑vious post) are very simple I think, I just need some‑one from Intel or public who can re‑spond to them... If you don't know the re‑sponse then I will wait for some‑one who knows ...

                        • 9. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                          kevin_intel

                          The part number was provided to you is the one we have from our side for this processor. This is one of the highest TDP fans we have for 775 processors and it should be this part included with the processor (if processor comes with fan)

                           

                          The other way is getting a 3rd party water cooling solution for 775 processors.

                          • 10. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                            Nemzag

                            Which fan & pro‑cessor are you talking about, the one for Q9650 or QX9770 ??? Can you be more pre‑cise please in your re‑sponse ?

                             

                            I want to use a Intel fan, no third party one... Because with the Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3GHz, I had an Intel fan D60188-001 and he worked good & long time (7 years with good cooling temperature)...

                            • 11. Re: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Fan & Temperature
                              Nemzag

                              Hi, I just re‑ceived to‑day & now (2015-06-03) the D99136-001 DP810A20 DTC-AAS10 12VDC x 0,80A = 9,6W DELTA (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007QFRN52/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=) from Parts‑Col‑lection in Ontario California. He is really big, and it seem a very good fan...

                              Yester‑day I re‑ceived my ArctiClean kit & Arctic MX-4 thermal‑past, I'm gonna in‑stall every‑thing these coming day and check re‑sult, if they are not good, I will use "E30307-001 CN2F0233M2 F09A‑12B11S2 10AC2H3(CX) DC12V x 0.20A = 2,4W NIDEC" that Yakov from Intel sup‑port sended to me...

                               

                              P.S : I in‑stalled the fan D99136-001, I used the Arctic MX-4 thermal‑past with a credit‑card to have uni‑form spreading, The D99136 is very large, but I have enough space in my mother‑board. But D99136-001 is very fragile, the aluminum metallic part around the plastic fan folds easily. And the fasteners binding each other, be‑tween each wing, are easily de‑coupled. And we can't put them back to places...

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                              Be‑cause of my movement, the plastic fan even dis‑located, I had to put it back in to place, upon the aluminum metal heat‑sink part (I was a‑fraid that may‑be be‑cause of that I will have worse cooling re‑sults, and that may‑be I broked the fan and will not work any‑more)...

                              I putted the fan for a second time, fixed the locks in the 775 socket.


                              After I re‑booted and I ran the "Intel Pro‑cessor Dia‑gnostic Tool 64Bit" test. The re‑sults speak for them‑selves:

                              --- Temperature Test ---
                              Temperature Test Passed !!!
                              Temperature = 62 degrees C below maximum.

                              --- Test End Time: 6/3/2015 9:05:34 p.m. ---


                              22°C less than with E30307-001, the core # 0 is still 5°C hotter than the coldest core #1, but 2°C hotter than core #2 & #3, really I'm happy with re‑sults, 41°C at 100% load in Windows & 30°C at idle, only pro‑blem, he make a lot of noise be‑cause he is always at full‑speed 2850RPM... It seems that D99136-001 doesn't have auto‑matic speed‑con‑trol, based on temperature...


                              For the noise, I find a solution, it is to activate "Asus Q-Fan con‑trol" in B.I.O.S.


                              With Q‑Fan "optimal" set, the speed fan at idle is 1040RPM with 33°C... I tested full load with I.P.D.T and temperature is 50°C with 1200RPM, in games at full‑load the temperature is 53~55°C with 1400RPM. It is still very good... 9~13°C less than E30307 with more quietness...

                              --- Temperature Test ---

                              Temperature Test Passed!!!

                              Temperature = 47 degrees C below maximum.

                              --- Test End Time: 06/03/2015 22:17:07---

                               

                              --- Temperature Test ---

                              Temperature Test Passed!!!

                              Temperature = 53 degrees C below maximum.

                              --- Test End Time: 06/05/2015 14:24:00---

                               

                              With Q‑Fan "Per‑formance" set, the speed fan at idle is 1050RPM with 33°C... With I.P.D.T temperature is 48°C in Windows, in games at 100% load 51°C at 1700RPM... 12~17°C less than E30307...

                              --- Temperature Test ---

                              Temperature Test Passed!!!

                              Temperature = 50 degrees C below maximum.

                              --- Test End Time: 06/03/2015 23:21:24---

                               

                              --- Temperature Test ---

                              Temperature Test Passed!!!

                              Temperature = 57 degrees C below maximum. (1985RPM)

                              --- Test End Time: 06/05/2015 13:15:51---

                               

                              --- Temperature Test ---

                              Temperature Test Passed!!!

                              Temperature = 55 degrees C below maximum. (1775RPM)

                              --- Test End Time: 06/05/2015 13:22:45---

                               

                              --- Temperature Test ---

                              Temperature Test Passed!!!

                              Temperature = 56 degrees C below maximum. (1750RPM)

                              --- Test End Time: 06/05/2015 15:08:45---

                               

                              So I de‑cided to keep Per‑formance mode en‑abled... Good cooling re‑sult with tolerable much less noise...

                               

                              P.S : I also have a strange bug, after waking‑up from sleep‑state and log‑in in windows, after en‑tering in the desk‑top, the monitoring tools HWiNFO or HWMonitor show that CPU fan speed is at 0RPM (HWiNFO after seven seconds & HWMonitor im‑mediately), this happen only if I use "Asus Q-Fan Con‑trol" "Optimal or Per‑formance"...

                              With E30307-001 never had this bug, do you think it's be‑cause D99136-001 uses 4x more watts ? With "Asus PC Probe II 1.04.88" monitoring tool, the bug don't happen, I down‑loaded & tested the last "Asus PC Probe II version 1.04.92" and with that one, after sleep‑state, wake‑up & log‑in, the CHA_Fan 2 is set to 0RPM six seconds then show the real RPM...