12 Replies Latest reply on Mar 17, 2015 6:35 PM by jonathan_intel

    intel ssd dc s3710

    foudesoft

      Hello,

       

      I've some questions about the new SSDs S3710 and S3610 :

      -Have you a date or an idea about the release in Europe (France) ?

      -Have you a date or an idea about the release of new software "Intel SSD Data Center Tool" compatible with S3710 and S3610 ? A number of the next version ? v3.0 ? v2.3.0 ?

       

      I plan to buy a little lot of S3710 1.2 TB, but I must have a "resize LBA" functionnality !

       

      Thank you for your answer, I hope officially by Intel support !

       

      Have a nice day !

       

      Best regards,

        • 1. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
          jonathan_intel

          Hello foudesoft,

           

          We appreciate your confidence in Intel products and would like to thank you for considering our new Data Center SSDs.

           

          The Intel® SSD DC S3710 Series and Intel® SSD DC S3610 Series were just released on Q1'2015. We would expect them to be available from Intel Technology Providers and Authorized resellers soon. We will try to get specific information regarding availability in Europe (France) and will let you know once we have further details.

           

          About you Intel® SSD Data Center Tool question, please clarify if you will use tool to modify the Maximum LBA in order to change the drive's maximum storage capacity.

          Or, if you will need to change the LBA mode sector size (512 B - 4 KB).

          • 2. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
            foudesoft

            Hello Jonathan,

             

            Thank you very much for your answer.

             

            I would like to use Intel SSD Data Center Tool (command line software) to change the Maximum LBA. But the last version v2.2.0 seems not be compatible with the new SSD S3610 ans S3710. For when the next version ? New version number idea ?

            Change the physical sector size ? I don't no. Make it the SSD Faster to pass to 4 KB ?

             

            Thank you for your new informations.

            • 3. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
              jonathan_intel

              Hello foudesoft,

               

              We are getting confirmation if the Intel® SSD Data Center Tool version 2.2.0 supports the Intel® SSD DC S3710 and Intel® SSD DC S3610, or if a new release will be required to manage the new series. We will let you know once we have more information.

               

              We would expect these drives and management tool to support changing the Maximum LBA, so you can modify the reported storage capacity.

              Regarding the LBA sector size, in some scenarios there may be a performance difference between 512 B and 4 KB, however, this would depend on the type of data and workload you use.

               

              We are checking about the availability of the new drives in your country. Additionally, we advise you to check the following link where you can locate Authorized Intel Technology Providers, If they do not have a specific model in stock, they would be able to order from the distributors:

               

              http://locate.intel.com/Search.aspx

              • 4. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                foudesoft

                Hello Jonathan,

                 

                For Intel SSD DC S3710, which is the default sector size ? 512 B or 4 KB ?

                 

                I found two problems in the Intel documentation :

                 

                The first in the Intel® SSD Data Center S3710 Series Product Specification, at page 6 :

                 

                2 Product Specifications

                1. 2.1 Capacity

                Table 1: User Addressable Sectors Intel SSD DC S3710 Series

                Unformatted Capacity

                (Total User Addressable Sectors in LBA Mode)

                200GB

                200,049,647,616

                400GB

                400,088,457,216

                800GB

                800,166,076,416

                1.2TB

                1,200,243,695,616

                Notes:

                1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes; 1 sector = 512 bytes.

                LBA count shown represents total user storage capacity and will remain the same throughout the life of the drive.

                The total usable capacity of the SSD may be less than the total physical capacity because a small portion of the capacity is used for NAND flash management and maintenance purposes.

                 

                The problem are the unformatted capacities, this actual values in the documentation are the capacities in bytes, and not in sectors (unformatted capacity / 512 or / 4096), the correction are (in red) :

                 

                Intel SSD DC S3710 Series Unformatted Capacity 1 sector = 512 bytes.

                (Total User Addressable Sectors in LBA Mode)

                200GB            390,721,968

                400GB            781,422,768

                800GB            1,562,824,368

                1.2TB            2,344,225,968

                 

                or if 1 sector = 4 Kilo-bytes:

                200GB            48,840,246

                400GB            97,677,846

                800GB            195,353,046

                1.2TB            293,028,246


                The second problem I noted is inside the documentation entitled “Intel_SSD_Data_Center_Tool_2_2_x_User_Guide_331961-001”

                 

                Sheet number 49 :

                 

                “4.10 Change Maximum LBA

                 

                Use the MaximumLBA property to change the drive’s maximum storage capacity up to the native capacity of the drive (that is, MAX LBA).

                NOTE: You should run the delete command before altering the Maximum LBA of a drive. After modifying the maximum LBA, a complete power shutdown is required to properly reflect the changes.

                The MaximumLBA property has four options:

                The native option resets the drive back to its native Max LBA, or 100% of the drive.

                      isdct.exe set –intelssd 1 MaximumLBA=native

                The LBA option specifies the drive’s max LBA with a specific number. The number entered must be a decimal literal.

                This example sets the drive’s Max LBA to 55555:

                      isdct.exe –drive_index 1 MaximumLBA=55555

                      isdct.exe set –intelssd 1 MaximumLBA=55555

                The x% percent changes the drive’s size based on a percentage of native max. Values of 1-100 are valid, where a value of 100 is equivalent to using the native option.

                      isdct.exe –drive_index 1 MaximumLBA=80%

                      isdct.exe set –intelssd 1 MaximumLBA=80%

                The xGB capacity option sets the drive to a specific capacity in gigabytes. This will result in an error if the given number of gigabytes is less than 1 or is greater than the drive’s max capacity.

                      isdct.exe –drive_index 1 MaximumLBA=80GB

                      isdct.exe set –intelssd 1 MaximumLBA=80GB

                 

                I contact support for two weeks and not any correction at this day in the documentations !

                 

                Best regards,

                • 5. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                  jonathan_intel

                  Hello foudesoft,

                   

                  We have confirmed that iSDCT version 2.2.0 supports the Intel® SSD DC S3710 Series and Intel® SSD DC S3610 Series. We are working to have the information updated in the Download Center and the product documentation.

                   

                  Thank you for pointing out the errors about the LBA sector count and the Max LBA set commands in the documents. This has been notified to the resources in charge and should be corrected soon.

                   

                  We are working to get more details about the sector size, in order to provide you with a clear explanation.

                  • 6. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                    foudesoft

                    Intel SSD Data Center S3710 & S3610 Product Specification Updated !

                    • 7. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                      foudesoft

                      Any idea about the update of the Intel SSD Data Center Tool download page ? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/23931

                       

                      And I found another problem in the documentation of ISDCT 2.2.0 user guide :

                      Page 9 :

                      2 Command Line Options

                      Verb      Description                                  Target                            Properties

                      set       Modifies the                                  -intelssd (Index)             [PhysicalSectorSize=(0|1)]

                                 configurable settings                                                           [PhysicalSectorSize=(512|4096)]

                                on the selected Intel SSD

                       

                      The same as in the help of the command line application.

                       

                      Thank you for this new modification.

                       

                      Best regards,

                      • 8. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                        jonathan_intel

                        Thank you for the feedback, we notified this to the team in charge. We expect the documentation to be modified once the changes are reviewed and validated.

                        • 9. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                          foudesoft

                          Hello Jonathan,

                           

                          Thank you for your answer. The corrections were released.

                           

                          I found just a last problem, it's in the documentation of ISDCT 2.2.1 user guide, it doesn't mention new SSD DC S3710 & S3610 compatibility.

                           

                          Best regards,

                          • 10. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                            jonathan_intel

                            We appreciate the input and would like to let you know that the main download page for Intel® Solid-State Drive Data Center Tool now lists the Intel® Solid-State Drive DC S3610 and Intel® Solid-State Drive DC S3710, we expect for the rest of the modifications to be made in the future.

                            • 11. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                              foudesoft

                              Hello Jonathan,

                               

                              Any news about the release in France of the S3610 & S3710 ?

                               

                              Thank you.

                               

                              Best regards,

                              • 12. Re: intel ssd dc s3710
                                jonathan_intel

                                Hello,

                                 

                                We received confirmation that both series, the 3610 and 3710, are available for purchase from our Authorized distributors worldwide, including France.

                                 

                                It is up to the distributors to order them and have them available to customers in their area. We advise you to locate an authorized reseller of your preference and check with them if, or when, they will have them in stock:

                                 

                                https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/fr/fr/resellers/where-to-buy/overview.html