1 2 3 Previous Next 39 Replies Latest reply on Mar 10, 2016 1:58 PM by palmiris

    latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI

    chriz74x

      I have a notebook pc with Intel i7-2670QM processor which is equipped with HD3000 graphics. The WEI score in windows 8.1 64 bit shows:

       

      <Dx10SubScore>0</Dx10SubScore>

       

      meaning the tests for DX10 are skipped completely by winsat.

      I have the latest hd3000 drivers for windows 8.1 and, by looking at dxdiag, turns out that the drivers is WDDM1.2 and not WDDM1.3 as required by Windows 8.1.

      So I must conclude these drivers are not using the DX10 functionality under Windows 8.1 64.

       

      Intel drivers are:

       

      Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000

       

      Report Date: 2/3/2015

      Report Time[hh:mm:ss]: 16:44:59

      Driver Version: 9.17.10.3517

      Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro(6.3.9600)

      Default Language: Italian (Italy)

      DirectX* Version: 11.0

      Physical Memory: 3915 MB

      Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz

      Processor Speed: 2195 MHz

      Vendor ID: 8086

      Device ID: 0116

      Device Revision: 09

        • 1. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
          kevin_intel

          Hello chriz74x,

           

          You are correct. HD 3000 graphics driver supports up to WDDM1.2 on Windows 8.1.

           

          Please check the Driver release notes here:

          http://downloadmirror.intel.com/23764/eng/releasenotes_gfx_3517_64.pdf

           

          You can also refer to the Driver ReadMe File here:

          http://downloadmirror.intel.com/23764/eng/Installation_Readme_64.txt

           

          Kevin M

          • 2. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
            chriz74x

            Yes I got that. The question is, does dx10 work at all on windows 8.1 with hd3000 ?

            • 3. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
              Robert_U

              @ chriz74x

               

              HD3000 Graphics supports up to DirectX version 10.1, (Good reference here List of Intel graphics processing units - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

              I am currently research why you are seeing the WinSAT and DXDiag results regarding Windows 8.1.

               

              Thanks

              Robert

              • 4. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                chriz74x

                This is the output of "winsat d3d -dx10" command in elevated command prompt, sorry it's in Italian but it's obvious that all the dx10 tests are skipped:

                 

                C:\Windows\system32>winsat d3d -dx10

                Strumento di valutazione sistema Windows

                > In esecuzione: Enumerazione delle funzionalità ''

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 1

                0 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -

                objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 1

                0 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -

                objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10

                -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -o

                bjs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta

                3'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10

                -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -o

                bjs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta

                3'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc

                10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcn

                t C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(

                0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc

                10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt

                C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0)

                -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > In esecuzione: Valutazione Direct3D WinSAT '-dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc

                10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25)

                -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuf

                f 5 -cbufp 6'

                > Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00

                > Prestazioni Direct3D Batch                   0.00 F/s

                > Prestazioni Direct3D Alpha Blend             0.00 F/s

                > Prestazioni Direct3D ALU                     0.00 F/s

                > Prestazioni Direct3D Texture Load            0.00 F/s

                > Prestazioni Direct3D Geometry                0.00 F/s

                > Prestazioni Direct3D Geometry                0.00 F/s

                > Prestazione Direct3D Constant Buffer         0.00 F/s

                > Tempo di esecuzione totale 00:00:00.45

                • 5. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                  chriz74x

                  also, this strings appear on winsat.log

                   

                  WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment

                   

                  So what is happening here is winsat checks if the driver is WDDM 1.3 and since it's not aborts the test.

                  The question remains: does Windows 8.1 uses directx10 at all without a WDDM 1.3 driver?

                  • 6. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                    chriz74x

                    sorry, this is the exact string in the winsat.log

                     

                    d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                     

                    So, driver is not 1.1 nor 1.2 ??

                    • 7. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                      Robert_U

                      @Chriz74x,

                       

                      The HD3000 Graphics driver supports WDDM 1.2 See this for additional information. Graphics Drivers — Microsoft Windows 8* and Windows 8.1* Support FAQ

                       

                      I would also recommend testing with the latest driver for HD3000 here: Intel® Download Center

                       

                      Thanks

                      Robert

                      • 8. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                        palmiris

                        I have same problem. Specs: Intel 3000 HD, gen 2 intel i5Vpro, windows 8.1 pro x64.

                         

                        My first thought is that windows 8.1 is missing certain directX 10.1 files and the WEI test cannot run.

                         

                        Do you intel have any solution for this???

                         

                        Thanks

                         

                        Here is part of my winsat.log.

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        205015 (6972) - exe\main.cpp:1852: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0195: GraphicsOp::AssessmentThread Launched with priority 0

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        205015 (6972) - exe\main.cpp:1852: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0195: GraphicsOp::AssessmentThread Launched with priority 0

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        205015 (6972) - exe\main.cpp:1852: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0195: GraphicsOp::AssessmentThread Launched with priority 0

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        205015 (6972) - exe\main.cpp:1852: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0195: GraphicsOp::AssessmentThread Launched with priority 0

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        205015 (6972) - exe\main.cpp:1852: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0195: GraphicsOp::AssessmentThread Launched with priority 0

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        205015 (6972) - exe\main.cpp:1852: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0195: GraphicsOp::AssessmentThread Launched with priority 0

                        205015 (6972) - d3d\graphicsop.cpp:0217: Driver is not WDDM 1.1 or WDDM 1.2; aborting DX10 assessment.

                        • 9. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                          palmiris

                          Intel why have you not produced a wddm 1.3 driver in order to properly support intel hd 3000 in windows 8.1??? A 2 year driver support does seem very short for a reputable company. Intel please produce a wddm 1.3 driver to properly support windows 8.1.

                          • 10. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                            mikec_intel

                            Hi palmiris,

                             

                            The second generation processors have a hardware limitation, they meet WDDM 1.2. The 4 gen and latest are prepare for WWDM 2.0

                             

                            Regards,
                            Mike C

                            • 11. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                              palmiris

                              Thanks for your reply.

                               

                              What exactly is the limitation???? All specs are the same except the following (see table). All intel hardware starting from intel hd 4000 have been upgraded to wddm 1.3 and 2.0 except intel hd 3000.

                               

                              Here are the hardware differences.

                               

                                                        direct X       pipelines  OpenGL      Shader model     Open CL          Performance Improvement

                              intel hd 4000          11             16             4                   5                          1.2                    about 40% over intel hd 3000 (due to better spec hardware support)

                              intel hd 3000          10.1          12            3.1                4.1                        -

                               

                               

                              I have a windows 8.1 with intel i5 vPro 2nd gen, intel hd 3000, and intel centrino ultimate N-6300. The passmark performance for  both windows 8.0 and 8.1 are: 1811 and 1752 respectively. The difference is in the 2d (or desktop performance) score only. (search baseline by using "lenovo T420 B87 4236" and the 2 tests will appear)

                               

                              Widi is working great under windows 8.1 with intel Widi 3.5.41.0 driver only (not able to make windows 10 widi work though). Maybe a different miracast hardware would be able to work under newer widi drivers but I will not be able to test this. I am happy though with my solution which was made under trial and error. For this reason I don't have a problem per se. Everything works fine under windows 8.1, which is a surprise as it is wddm 1.2 (even widi with the proper driver).

                               

                               

                              I still dont understand the limitation for not providing a wddm 1.3 driver. Does intel hd 3000 need an update (through bios) in order to support a wddm 1.3 driver???? Where is exactly the limitation???

                               

                              I need a bit of info as your reply will help me take future decisions regarding my future laptop purchases.

                               

                              Windows 8.1 and windows 10 are tested to be both hardware upgrade compatible so was the intel widi hardware engine check but still without wddm 1.3 and 2.0 driver support to my suprise.

                               

                              I need a bit more convincing arguments by intel who has not taken the driver update forward though I would have thought if there is a will there is always a way especially if you want to keep your customers happy.

                               

                              I am happy that windows 8.1 works so I will have microsoft support for another 5 years, compared to windows 7 which will soon end however I will not say the same for the integrated graphics firmware upgrade option. This can only be done through bios, and intel is not so interested in firmware upgrading its hardware nor are the computer manufacturers.

                               

                              Integrated graphics should be firmware upgraded easily without the need of bios update. Though most customers aim is to save power on laptops through integrated graphics, intel should find a way to software update their integrated graphic without the need of bios update. Then you will have a competitive advantage but not until then.

                               

                              Regards

                              • 12. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                                mikec_intel

                                Hi palmiris,

                                 

                                The graphics features are embedded in the processor, some features require software and hardware updates. For example 3rd gen processors support WDDM 1.3 and they support Windows® 10 but they will have limitations. The graphics driver is provided with Windows® 10 updates.

                                 

                                Windows® 10 comes with Windows Display Driver Model 2.0 and only 4th gen and newer versions are fully compatible. The chart below contains the supported operating systems by graphics generation.

                                 

                                Graphics Drivers — Supported Operating Systems

                                 

                                Regards,
                                Mike C

                                • 13. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                                  palmiris

                                  hello,

                                  I am interested in Intel HD 3000 and windows 8.1 full integration, meaning wddm 1.3 compliance. I am expecting that Intel produces a wddm 1.3 driver for Intel HD 3000. If it cannot be done feel free to explain why, but as I said if there is a will there was s always a way. please reconsider.

                                   

                                  thanks.

                                  • 14. Re: latest hd3000 drivers not WDDM1.3 for Windows 8.1 - DX10 assessment 0 in WEI
                                    mikec_intel

                                    Hi palmiris,

                                     

                                    I understood your request; however, there is a hardware limitation on second generation processors, the option to include WDDM 1.3 is not possible. Processor are sealed and firmware is secret.

                                     

                                    Regards,
                                    Mike C

                                    1 2 3 Previous Next