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    XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?

    baumgrenze

      I have a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P (rev. 2.1) MOBO in a 6-year-old built to order machine that I'm upgrading from XP/Pro to Win7/Pro.

       

      It has these specs.  Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core. The MOBO includes SATAII. It has the Intel P35 chipset in the North Bridge (2 GSATA ports) and Intel ICH9R in the South Bridge (6 SATAII ports. It has 8 GB of DDRII 800 memory.

       

      My current configuration has XP and my program files on two 74 GB WD Raptor drives in RAID1 and two 500 GB WD Caviar Caviar SE16 drives also in RAID1.

       

      The CMOS setting for SATA RAID/AHCI Mode is RAID. (Aside: Damn it would be useful to have a log file of all my current CMOS settings. I don't do this every day, and shutting down just so I can reboot and enter settings to check a setting and maybe document it with a digital photo is a PITA. Has anyone ever figured out how to gather this information into a log?)

       

      I want to replace the Raptor drives with two 128 GB Crucial M550 SSD drives and install Win7 64bit in RAID1. I will keep my data drives in RAID1 during the process.

       

      What I've read suggests that the order in which I do things could make my new installation relatively pain free or very complex.

       

      I know that the RAID1 software I am using is here:

       

      C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology

       

      It was installed by the custom builder (GamePC/SolidElectric of Palo Alto, CA.) I don't find a CD for the software.

       

      Will I need to download software from Intel that is Win7 64bit compatible? Will my 74-year-old brain be able to readily understand the options I might encounter during installation?

       

      It is clear to me that I will also need a 64 bit driver. Which should I download?

       

      Should all of this be available on a flash drive?

       

      My current drive C: will be unavailable during the Windows installation process so I won't have access to the program I've been using. I doubt it would run under Win7 64bit anyway.

       

      I would very much appreciate a straightforward explanation of the steps I should take to accomplish my goal. I’ve been very happy with the service that Rapid Storage Technology has given me.

       

      I've asked for help on other forums and encountered replies like these. "Why would you want to do that?" "RAID1 is not a backup solution." They are not much help to me.

       

      Thanks,

       

      baumgrenze

        • 1. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
          sylvia_intel

          Hello Baumgrenze,  I would like to rephrase your post just to make sure I understand well.

          You have a system running Windows XP and it has 2 RAID 1 with 2 hard drives each. 

          Now, you would like to change the 74GB drives for 2 128 GB and install Windows 7.


          In order to provide you accurate information, it will be necessary for me to know if you installed Windows XP on one specific hard driver, and then you created the RAID, or if the operating system was installed after the creation of the 2 arrays?

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          • 2. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
            MrsTee

            Dear Sylvia

             

            I'm also trying to upgrade a Windows XP system to Windows 7, but when I ran the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor it said that Intel(R)Active Management Technology- SOL and Intel(R) Management Engine Interface have drivers that are not compatible with Windows 7. Please can you tell me what this means and what I have to do? I am not an expert at this, but really want to get my PC upgraded and safe. The other message that came up was a yellow triangle rather than a red cross - it said that Intel(R) 82566DM Gigabit network connection wasn't the most recent version.

             

            Many thanks

             

            Sue

            • 3. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
              baumgrenze

              Thank you sylvia_intel for your prompt response. I hope to report back soon. I asked the builder how they set up such a machine.

               

              I hope this thread doesn't end up getting hijacked in many different directions before I get back to you.

               

              thanks

              • 4. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                baumgrenze

                Hello Sylvia,

                 

                Thank you for your patience.

                 

                The RAID was created first. Where do I go from here?

                 

                Thanks,

                • 5. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                  baumgrenze

                  I've explored my system some more and have learned this:

                   

                  The RAID arrays I am running  are being supported by Intel Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014.

                   

                  As I poked through the help file I discovered the System Requirements section:

                   

                  System Requirements

                  Intel® Rapid Storage Technology provides enhanced management capabilities and detailed status information for Serial ATA AHCI and RAID subsystems. This application is supported on the following operating systems and hardware components:

                  Supported operating systems

                  · Microsoft Windows* XP Professional     (current, soon to be past OS)

                  · I deleted those that did not apply

                  · Microsoft Windows* 7 x64-bit Edition    (soon to be new OS)

                  Supported Intel® Chipsets  (Mine is P35)

                  · Intel® 3 Series Chipsets

                  · I deleted those that did not apply

                  ■          Intel® ICH9R SATA AHCI/RAID controller hub


                  This suggests to me that I do not need to install new RAID software to get going. I can boot into XP and use Intel Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 to set up my two new SSD hardware in RAID1. I then connect these drives to Ports 0 and 1 and they should be recognized as the place I want Win7 x64 to be installed.

                   

                  Should I have the installation exe file for Intel Rapid Storage Technology 9.6.0.1014 on my flash drive so I can install it as soon as possible?

                   

                  I tried exploring the Intel Download Center but got very confused. It directed me to a page where I was being offered much older versions of Intel Matrix Storage Manager rather than the newer Intel Rapid Storage Technology version I've been using. Perhaps I misused it?

                   

                  Thanks in advance

                  • 6. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                    sylvia_intel

                    @MrsTee, I really appreciate you contacted us through the Intel Communities. However, would you please open a new thread since we are handling a different issue on this forum?

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                    • 7. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                      sylvia_intel

                      baumgrenze, it will be very important to contact Gigabyte and make sure your motherboard supports Windows 7 before making any change.

                       

                      Then, save or back up all your information since it should be migrated to the new hard drives.

                      It would be necessary to install Windows 7 completely. So, once you replaced the drives, make sure you select RAID mode on BIOS.  You can access the Ctrl +I menu and create the RAID 1 before installing the operating system, or you can create the array on Windows using the Intel® Rapid Storage Technology software.

                       

                      In regards to the 2nd RAID (storage), make sure you do not choose a disk from it. You should be able to access it once you are on Windows.

                      • 8. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                        baumgrenze

                        I composed a careful reply to this message earlier today.

                         

                        I've not seen it in the thread.

                         

                        I came back to check and to try to post this message. I was offered the opportunity to "use recovered" to rescue what I wrote. This blank box opened.

                         

                        I have not lost interest in this thread. I see I should have composed my reply in Word and pasted it to the forum so that I could copy and paste it a second time. It will take more time for me to recompose than I have just now.  I have a travel schedule to meet. I cannot return to this thread until Saturday, 12 April. Please do not consider it abandoned or judge that I have lost interest.

                         

                        Thank you

                        • 9. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                          sylvia_intel

                          Do not worry Baumgrenze. please reply back to us once you can

                          • 10. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                            baumgrenze

                            Hello Sylvia,

                             

                            Since I wrote, I used Intel Rapid Storage Technology and joined the two SSD drives into a RAID1. When I did so, I noticed a comment that said I needed to 'partition' the array. I did use my old copy of Partition Magic to format the two drives.

                             

                            Is there an added step? I apologize in advance for being so dense.

                             

                            FWIW here is a System Report I created earlier today after I created the new array. It seems to me be "in order ."

                             

                            Thanks,

                             

                            baumgrenze

                             

                            System Report  Dated 04/14/14  after creating RAID1 volume from SSD disks

                             

                            System Information

                            OS name:  Microsoft Windows XP Professional

                            OS version:  5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 2600

                            System name: JOHN-3FE0D500A2

                            System manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.

                            System model: EP35-DS3P

                            Processor: GenuineIntel x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11 2.4  GHz

                            BIOS:  Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG, GBT    - 42302e31

                             

                            Intel® Rapid Storage Technology

                            Kit installed: 9.6.0.1014

                            User interface version: 9.6.0.1014

                            Language:  English (United States)

                            Intel RAID controller: Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R/DO/5 Series/3400 Series SATA RAID Controller

                            Number of SATA ports: 6

                            RAID option ROM version: 7.5.0.1017

                            Driver version: 9.6.0.1014

                            ISDI version: 9.6.0.1014

                             

                            Device Information

                             

                            Name:  Array_0000

                            Size:  141 GB

                            Available space:  0 GB

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Number of volumes:  1

                            Volume member:  OS

                            Number of disks:  2

                            Array disk: WD-WMANS2011524

                            Array disk: WD-WMANS2449423

                             

                            Name:  Array_0001

                            Size:  953 GB

                            Available space:  0 GB

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Number of volumes:  1

                            Volume member: 500GB_RAID1_Data

                            Number of disks:  2

                            Array disk: WD-WCATR0718454

                            Array disk: WD-WMASY0568404

                             

                            Name:  Array_0002

                            Size:  244 GB

                            Available space:  0 GB

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Number of volumes:  1

                            Volume member: SSD_RAID1

                            Number of disks:  2

                            Array disk: 1406039F3B19

                            Array disk: 1406039F3B24

                             

                            Name:  OS

                            Status:  Normal

                            Type:  RAID 1

                            Size:  71 GB

                            Data strip size:  64 KB

                            Write-back cache: Disabled

                            System volume: Yes 

                            Initialized: Yes 

                            Verification errors found: 0

                            Blocks with media errors: 0

                            Physical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Parent array: Array_0000

                            Number of disks:  2

                            Array disk: WD-WMANS2011524

                            Array disk: WD-WMANS2449423

                             

                            Name: 500GB_RAID1_Data

                            Status:  Normal

                            Type:  RAID 1

                            Size:  477 GB

                            Data strip size:  64 KB

                            Write-back cache: Disabled

                            System volume:  No

                            Initialized: Yes 

                            Verification errors found: 0

                            Blocks with media errors: 0

                            Physical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Parent array: Array_0001

                            Number of disks:  2

                            Array disk: WD-WCATR0718454

                            Array disk: WD-WMASY0568404

                             

                            Name:  SSD_RAID1

                            Status:  Normal

                            Type:  RAID 1

                            Size:  122 GB

                            Data strip size:  64 KB

                            Write-back cache: Disabled

                            System volume:  No

                            Initialized:  No

                            Verification errors found: 0

                            Blocks with media errors: 0

                            Physical sector size: 4096 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Parent array: Array_0002

                            Number of disks:  2

                            Array disk: 1406039F3B19

                            Array disk: 1406039F3B24

                             

                            Disk on port 0

                            Port location: Internal

                            Status:  Normal

                            Usage:  Array disk

                            Size:  71 GB

                            Serial number: WD-WMANS2011524

                            Model:  WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR5

                            Firmware:  21.07QR5

                            System disk:  No

                            Password protected: No

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Native command queuing: Yes 

                            SATA transfer mode: Generation 1

                            Physical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                             

                            Disk on port 1

                            Port location: Internal

                            Status:  Normal

                            Usage:  Array disk

                            Size:  71 GB

                            Serial number: WD-WMANS2449423

                            Model:  WDC WD740ADFS-00SLR5

                            Firmware:  21.07QR5

                            System disk:  No

                            Password protected: No

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Native command queuing: Yes 

                            SATA transfer mode: Generation 2

                            Physical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                             

                            Disk on port 2

                            Port location: Internal

                            Status:  Normal

                            Usage:  Array disk

                            Size:  610 GB

                            Serial number: WD-WCATR0718454

                            Model:  WDC WD6400AAKS-00E4A0

                            Firmware:  05.01D05

                            System disk:  No

                            Password protected: No

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Native command queuing: Yes 

                            SATA transfer mode: Generation 2

                            Physical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                             

                            Disk on port 3

                            Port location: Internal

                            Status:  Normal

                            Usage:  Array disk

                            Size:  477 GB

                            Serial number: WD-WMASY0568404

                            Model:  WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0

                            Firmware:  01.03B01

                            System disk:  No

                            Password protected: No

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Native command queuing: Yes 

                            SATA transfer mode: Generation 2

                            Physical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                             

                            Disk on port 4

                            Port location: Internal

                            Status:  Normal

                            Usage:  Array disk

                            Size:  122 GB

                            Serial number: 1406039F3B19

                            Model:  Crucial_CT128M550SSD1

                            Firmware:  MU01

                            System disk:  No

                            Password protected: No

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Native command queuing: Yes 

                            SATA transfer mode: Generation 2

                            Physical sector size: 4096 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                             

                            Disk on port 5

                            Port location: Internal

                            Status:  Normal

                            Usage:  Array disk

                            Size:  122 GB

                            Serial number: 1406039F3B24

                            Model: Crucial_CT128M550SSD1

                            Firmware:  MU01

                            System disk:  No

                            Password protected: No

                            Disk data cache: Enabled

                            Native command queuing: Yes 

                            SATA transfer mode: Generation 2

                            Physical sector size: 4096 Bytes

                            Logical sector size: 512 Bytes

                            • 11. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                              baumgrenze

                              Hello Sylvia,

                               

                              It is good to see the boards up and running again this morning. Thanks to the IT team who restored them!

                               

                              You asked about the motherboard and Win 7 x64. Gigabyte offers this:

                               

                              All of these are available to download for Win7 x64 at

                               

                              http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2742&dl=1#

                               

                                Realtek Function driver for Realtek Azalia audio chip (Including Microsoft UAA Driver in English edition)

                               

                                Intel INF installation

                               

                                Realtek Ethernet Diagnostic Utility

                               

                                Realtek LAN Driver

                               

                                GIGABYTE SATA2 Preinstall driver (For AHCI / RAID Mode)  Note: Press F6 during Windows* setup to read     from floppy.

                               

                                GIGABYTE SATA2 RAID Driver

                               

                                Intel SATA RAID/AHCI Driver

                               

                              Which of these do I need to have available during the installation process and which are just useful as I install programs?

                               

                              I am running Intel Rapid Storage Technology (IRST) Ver. 9.6.0 from 2010. I see that Ver. 10.8.0 from November 2011 is available from Intel and is last version to support ICH9R. Should I download and install it before I download Win7? Do I remove the old before I install the new using Add/Remove programs. Will I gain anything by switching to it other than being able to RAID larger disks?

                               

                              I am unclear which is the best way forward. Is it better for me to join my two new SSD's into a RAID1 using the IRST on my existing hardware first? Then I unplug my existing boot disks, plug in the new ones and proceed with the installation?


                              A second post establishes that I went ahead and did this. Now I am concerned about a "Catch 22." Does IRST need to be running for the "clean install" of Win7 to take place on the RAID1? From my primitive understanding, it seems like a 'chicken-and-egg' paradox. I'm sure there is a simple explanation. I just want to do this right, the first time, if possible.

                               

                              Thanks,

                               

                              baumgrenze

                              • 12. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                                sylvia_intel

                                Baumgrenze, regarding the list of drivers available for your motherboard I think all are important to install.

                                 

                                At this point please let me know the following:

                                 

                                Were you able to install Windows XP on the new hard drives and then created the RAID 1?

                                Are you using Windows 7 on the 2nd RAID?

                                 

                                If you want to install a newer version of the Intel® Rapid Storage Technology I would recommend you to uninstall the previous version, restart the system and then install the latest one.

                                • 13. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                                  baumgrenze

                                  Hello Sylvia,

                                   

                                  I am working towards trying to install Win 7 on just one of the SSDs to see if the install DVD will really work while minimizing other issues. I will come back and report my results

                                   

                                  I've seen posts that insist that Windows 7 and RAID are 'incompatible' or at least that attempting to create, run, and maintain a RAID1 array under Windows 7 is not worth the effort and a recipe for pain and frustration for little gain.

                                   

                                  Does Intel still believe that Intel Rapid Storage Technology serves a useful function for users who have Windows 7 installed as their operating system?

                                   

                                  thanks,

                                   

                                  baumgrenze

                                  • 14. Re: XP/Pro to Win7/Pro 64 Bit With New Drives - What Comes First?
                                    sylvia_intel

                                    Baumgrenze, the Intel® Rapid Storage Technology software is totally compatible with Windows 7. We have been using this software combination without problem in our system.


                                    I would recommend you to contact our technical support team so they can provide additional troubleshooting.  http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/contactsupport

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