4 Replies Latest reply on Nov 16, 2013 1:26 AM by gustaf4711

    SE7501HG2. Can it run the E5-1607 v2 Xeon?

    gustaf4711

      My board is nearly 10 years old.  In the Intel pages,  there is one which lists Server Products, and for the SE7501HG2 there is a list of "Supported processors".


      Intel´┐Ż Server Board SE7501HG2 — Supported processors

       

      To my big surprise I find brand-new Xeons in that list, e.g. under 3.00 GHz the E5-1607 v2.

       

      Q.: is it really possible to upgrade that old board to a brand new Xeon?

       

      Should the answer be yes, that would really please me.

       

      Regards,

      Ch

        • 1. Re: SE7501HG2. Can it run the E5-1607 v2 Xeon?
          Dan_O

          Ch -

           

          Sadly, no, that won't be possible.  If you look at the rest of that table, the 3.00GHz must also have a system bus speed of 400 MHz, and the table even provides the order code of the one that works.

           

          I can see why it would be misleading, since the url runs a search on ARK for "Search.aspx?q=3.00%20GHz", which just returns all possible processors that have that speed.

          • 2. Re: SE7501HG2. Can it run the E5-1607 v2 Xeon?
            gustaf4711

            Dan_0,

             

            Thank you very much. However, I am not familiar with "system bus speed". In the server-board product specification it says: "The Intel Server Board SE7501HG2 accommodates one or two 400MHZ FSB or 533 MHz FSB Intel Xeon processors with 512 kB L2 Cache via two SKT604 604-pin ZIF sockets." Thus there is at least some speed mentioned that agrees with the one you cite.

             

            Do you refer to another speed?

             

            Furthermore: The text above the tables of the above mentioned links says, and I copy the text:

            "Note: All processors listed below are supported by the Intel® Server Board SE7501HG2."

             

            Could you please indicate a bit more clearly why I have to give up my hope of being able to upgrade the processors?

             

            Ch

            • 3. Re: SE7501HG2. Can it run the E5-1607 v2 Xeon?
              Doc_SilverCreek

              Dan O is correct,

               

              The FSB (front Side Bus) which ran at 400Mhz or 533mhz between the processors & the North Bridge chip which connected to a memory controller and a south bridge chip to PCI slots, Network controllers and HDD controllers.

               

              In 2008 the QPI bus replaced the FSB and opened a new leap forward in processor speed

              QPI buses run speeds up to 8 Gigatransfers per second. The features of a North Bridge are all inside the CPU as well,

               

              Not enough yet?

              The old Xeon's in your board have 604 pins that plug into the board,

              The E5-1607 (which is not a dual CPU processor) has 2011 "pins" on the mother board that connect to pads on the CPU.  (reversed)

               

              Intel has a Tock \ Tic strategie so that customer can upgrade a board's CPU. This means when they design a board for a new CPU, (the tock), about 1 year later the Tic CPU releases and is usually a drop in replacement as far as the hardware is concerned. In the current CPU's the E5-1607 would be the Tock and the E5-1607v2 is the Tic. The computer technology leaps ahead so fast that the CPU's that come after the E5-1607v2 are going to need new mother boards to support the newer features. 

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              • 4. Re: SE7501HG2. Can it run the E5-1607 v2 Xeon?
                gustaf4711

                Thank you both for clarifying the matters; especially the interesting details that  follow  "Not enough yet?".

                Case closed.

                 

                Ch