It is recommended for both drives to be connected to the main SATA controller, Intel® Z77 Chipset. Probably some boot options in BIOS are interfering, such as secure boot.
thank you for a reply joe...
I read the latest complete .pdf guide for v.2 of IDMS carefully b4 using the software...
while I understand that IDMS is a basic freeware program, my questions are not outside the use of the IDMS per the IDMS User Guide.
My question concerns attempting to use the IDMS emergency boot disk, booting from the IDMS "emergency disk" and loading the IDMS included on the emergency boot disk as outlined in IDMS User Guide Appendix 1.
Message was edited by pm: 11.9.2013
I changed some of those BIOS settings in my system and it always booted, even without the drives connected, then it gave me an error message about the missing drives but after it booted to GUI, this means that the rescue disk does not take any boot information from the other drives during the boot process. I suspect it is a compatibility issue with the storage controller.
replying to part of your statement, beginning with: "this means that the rescue disk does not take any boot information from the other drives during the boot process. I suspect it is a compatibility issue with the storage controller."
my apologies but I am a bit confused about the use of the word "drives" in your post.
however, are you saying that a working W8PC, using a UEFI with Secure Boot enabled, *should boot from the IDMS emergency bootable disk with *no changes required to the existing UEFI settings at all...?
and, Is the storage controller part of the CPU and/or the chipset?
If so, I failed to mention in my original post (now revised and simplified) that the ASUS MB I have uses an Intel I5-3530K CPU and an Intel Z-77 chip.
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To migrate your OS to a new SSD, you could also just use Windows' own built-in full system backup / bare metal restore function, although you temporary need a third drive (internal SATA or external USB) to write the backup to and to restore from.
Plug in your backup drive and execute the following command in an admin elevated command prompt (where U: is the drive letter of your backup drive):
Wbadmin start backup -backupTarget:u: -allCritical -vssCopy -quiet
This will backup your OS partition and any EFI/system partitions needed to boot the OS. Any secondary, non-OS data drives will not be included in the backup.
Next, shut down the PC, replace the original system drive with the empty SSD, boot on the Windows installation media and select restore from backup.
Note that you may have to resize your OS partition before doing the backup if the SSD's capacity is smaller than the old OS partition.
thank you for your post above and moving my question forward...
please allow me to ask a few questions so that i can be sure I understand what you have posted.
1. I have three (3) GPT drives: one contains my operating system (W8x64Pro); all applications; and current personal 'data' files. The second is a separate drive for personal 'data' backups and other storage.
The third drive is Empty. Drive #2 and #3 can be either internal SATA or external USB. All three drives are SATA.
Q: What is a 'bare metal' restore function?
2. Moving on.
I follow your instructions in paragraph #2 of your post executing the command in an admin elevate prompt where U: is the backup drive letter.
3. I execute the commands and flags as written in your post....
Q: a. The result will be a full image backup of my primary drive (#1) ?
b. Will this 'backup' erase anything or everything on the target disk ???
c. Can I direct the 'backup' to a Folder on the target disk; ie, U:\Backup -allCritical -vssCopy -quiet ?
Next, I follow the directions to shut down the PC, replace drives, and boot from the Windows install media, and restore from backup.
Q: a. The "Restore" image above will be directed to the Empty drive disk, correct?
b. What condition or state should the Empty drive be in? Initialized ? no partitions? no file formatting? etc
Q: Do I need to concern myself with partition alignments, existing drive and folder or file permissions, drive signatures, and other Drive related issues, etc ???
So I can leave the IDMS emergency boot drive problem for another time, or maybe never ??
This all sounds easy enough...
Thank you very much oken !
That is a lot of questions. I am not going to guide you through every step in detail, but here are some pointers:
Bare metal restore definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare_metal_restore
The result of the backup command will be a complete OS/boot partition backup (excluding any data drives) that can be used for bare metal restore. You cannot specify a destination folder for the backup, only a drive letter. Windows will create a folder named "WindowsImageBackup" for you. Use the exact syntax in the example. The backup will not overwrite the backup destination drive, only add a file/folder structure to it. Note: The destination drive needs to be NTFS formatted.
When restoring after booting on the installation media, you will be asked which drive to restore to, but I recommend unplugging your data drives before restoring to avoid any misunderstandings. The destination drive should be blank, meaning no with partitions.
Regarding partition alignments: If it was fine before backup, it will be fine after restore.
Remember that you may have to resize your OS partition to be able fit the new drive before you store the backup.
apologies for all the questions. thanks again for the education and for all your help !