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      • 30. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
        leeuniverse

        Ya....  My biggest issue is if I do anything important online, some application, form, etc. I may end up being screwed more.  I live online, and this issue is simply too much... 

         

        BTW hey INTEL....

         

        Someone else in one of the other dropping threads for a different card reported that it was occurring for them on their VERIZON FIOS router, and mine is occurring on my CenturyLink router....

         

        What's important about that info, is that both routers are ACTIONTEC Routers....  Although, I don't think it's only ActionTec...  but, it's at least something.

        • 31. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
          joe_intel

          You may be right; however, you mentioned earlier that this issue also happened with a non Intel wireless adapter, since in your specific case you only have one router to test with, and multiple wireless adapters with the same issue (and I know other computers with older operating systems connect just fine) I am more inclined to discard a compatibility issue with such router.

           

          I am hoping that at least your router has the latest firmware as recommended before. Something else could be testing your computer in a different network, let’s say a friend’s or a hotspot.

          • 32. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
            leeuniverse

            So, a good fellow "victorios" in this thread: https://communities.intel.com/message/207673#207673 for the n-2230 card posted these settings.

             

            802.11n Channel Width for band 2.4 --- Auto

            802.11n Mode --- Enabled

            Ad Hoc Channel 802.11b/g --- 9

            Ad Hoc QoS Mode --- WMM Enabled

            Bluetooth(R) AMP --- Enabled

            Fat Channel Intolerant --- Disabled

            Mixed Mode Protection --- RTS/CTS Enabled

            Roaming Aggressiveness --- 3. Medium

            Transmit Power --- 5. Highest

            Wake on Magic Packet --- Disabled

            Wake on Pattern Match --- Disabled

            Wireless Mode --- 2. 802.11g

             

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            I didn't change any of these yet, most don't apply either and/or are named differently.

             

            Maybe they are Router settings???  Most aren't in my router either.

             

            aggressiveness of homelessness: 3. average

            Disactivated ARP WoWLAN: Off

            Incompatible with 40 MHz channels: Off

            Regeneration GTK keys to WoWLAN: Off

            Ensures disconnection WoWLAN: Off

            Wake on Magic Packet: Off

            Encryption = WPA PSK TKIP

             

            new drivers available for Windows 8.1: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=23231

             

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            So, here's my experience so far.....

             

            Hmmmm..... Interesting!!!

             

            On my Dual-Band Wireless-AC 7260 card I followed your settings as they apply up to the "Wireless Mode" setting, and you're entirely right.  Though I think I left the "Wake on Pattern Match" as Enabled.

             

            I went an entire hour without a single disconnect.  It did ultimately disconnect when I layed down for a few minutes, came back and it was disconnected (had to then troubleshoot entire service to re-enable the connection), but not the entire time I was browsing, which normally would occur at least 6 times in an hour.

             

            Further, in an hour I would get maybe 200 or so "Page cannot be displayed" errors, and I would have to refresh the page to make it show.  I only got ONE the entire hour, which simply could have been the browser or internet, well within common browser functioning.

             

            Like I mentioned, I didn't do many of the others, namely your last grouping, and some settings don't apply to my card.  Also, on my router I'm set to use AES security.

            Further, I changed the "9" to "6" in mine, because I was thinking that's related to the wireless channel/freq set in your router, mines set to 6, and I also put the "Roaming" on lowest just to see (did this after my initial hour test, so testing this setting.  Also, I discovered that when I re-enabled the "Wait on Magic Packet" setting, I immediately starting having connection problems again.

             

            I think a lot of your settings above may not be necessary, but I think you have really helped us here.

            Oh, I also am using the 8.1 default driver 16.0.0.62 still, I haven't yet tried the 8.1 in your link.  I will though soon here....

             

            THANKS SO MUCH.....  Finally something that is more or less working!!!!!

             

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            p.s. had an error when originally trying to post this message, though, not sure if I actually got disconnected, because I didn't see anything, had to refresh page totally, kept doing it, so maybe it was just a forum error???

            • 33. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
              leeuniverse

              So this is interesting.....

               

              With the 16.0.0.36 driver and the above settings, I seem pretty stable, very rarely disconnect.

              But, I updated to the above 8.1 Driver and Proset, and I constantly still disconnect, even with the above settings, minus the bottom ones as mentioned and other differences.

               

              Further interesting, is I roll back the driver, and of course the Pro-set software is still installed.  It was kinda cool to see the pop-up letting you know when you disconnect, but the problem was that even with the above settings and now the old driver which WAS working, it also kept disconnecting....

               

              So, I'm thinking maybe the Pro-set software is doing this?  I uninstall it from the Control Panel, and there you go, I no more have the disconnect issues, but the old driver stay's the at least livable connected, rarely drops or disconnects.

               

              Now, I WOULD like to install the latest 8.1 driver ONLY to see if I can improve things, but Intel is not offering it apparently as a separate download, and the one from Microsoft which I think is a version or two below it, still has connection problems even with the above settings???  You have to install Pro-set. 

               

              Anyway, so it seems for me so far the 16.0.0.36 driver alone with the above settings there is now some stability in connection.

               

              BTW, it also seemed that it was the Pro-set software that was making the opening webpages really SLOW (as I mentioned in another thread).

               

              CRAP....  Just got disconnected just before I was to submit this.... 

               

              Well, still more testing to do then....  ho hum....

              • 34. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                leeuniverse

                Okay, so I've decided to set all the settings exactly how he indicated, since things seemed a bit erratic after all, not going as well as the first test, including the bottom ones, all the ones anyway that there are settings for, and I will now test....  Let's see how it goes, will return and report.

                • 35. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                  leeuniverse

                  So I was still having some disconnects it turns out even with this new system.

                  Though, it does seem not as bad.

                  Unfortunately, he now has gone even further with instructions which I'll post later after some testing.

                  This doesn't seem to end, and these last instructions should be done frankly..... 

                  • 36. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                    leeuniverse

                    Well, it seems this guy is just "guessing".....  stringing us along, not actually having a "real" solution.

                    He's changing things, having us do crazy things, etc.

                     

                    I give up....

                     

                    I'm just going to having to try to convince my Manufacturer to send me a Killer N1202 or use Internet Connectivity Monitor v1.41 to stay connected when browsing.  Not sure if you ping a website forever though what will happen, like if they will ban you or something?

                    • 37. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                      leeuniverse

                      Well, finally have a working internet.....!!!! Here's what I did.

                       

                      I have a CenturyLink Router (made by ActionTec), I bought 3 different computers Acer, Lenovo, & MSI.  All three had different wireless card models from two different company's, Intel and Atheros.  I also bought 3 different Wireless extenders 2 NetGears and 1 Belkin.  ALL of these devices would have constant wireless dropping and disconnect issues, no matter what settings what drivers, etc.  I couldn't call CenturyLink because it wasn't my router or service, but roommates who wasn't really reasonable to deal with.

                       

                      My roommate had an old router but not too old (maybe year 1/2) he used with his previous service.  He at least allowed me to hook that up connecting an Ethernet cable from one of the CenturyLink LAN ports to a LAN port of the second router, and I now have a working wireless internet connection. BUT BEFORE I made that connection, I connected the second router by Ethernet to my computer LAN to LAN, went into settings manually through the browser (follow the instructions for that router for going into your settings i.e. 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1 typed in your browser and login indicated on the bottom of most routers), turned off the DHCP of the second router, set my own SSID and pw on the second router (using WPA2 AES security, and be sure to use a "different" SSID from your main router (i.e. name of your wireless network), because you will be connecting to this one instead), and then connected the 2nd router to the CenturyLink router with the cable per above, and I'm working.


                      Here's instructions: How to connect router to another router

                       

                      2 months of some 5 hours a day working on this, and I finally got a working internet connection.


                      Conclusion.....  People having this problem simply need to:


                      1. get their ISP to give them a working router

                      2. get a different router themselves, verify with the ISP the required settings/login info, or

                      3. get another router and hook it up LAN to LAN as I just did.  That is the best way.


                      Note that when I was using the Wireless Extenders, I seemed to have a great connection from the computer to the Extender.  But the connection was just as bad from the Extender to the CenturyLink router.  So, the problem is the new generation wireless systems and certain crap routers, even different extenders couldn't communicate well with the router.  Drivers do have a play because the wireless disconnected once on my computer side, though that may have just been the wireless itself, not on my side, but they aren't the real problem, the router is.  I'm still using the 16.0.0.62 driver, though I will try the latest update to see if that works still also.


                      BTW, the 2nd router is a NetGear, and I'm actually connecting to the 2nd routers wireless, hence my setting up the SSID and pw per above, though the internet is going through the original router.  Doing what I've done is what's called setting up an "Access Point", which means exactly what it means, using another router for extra internet access points, so you can connect additional computers up to the 2nd routers LAN ports or go through the wireless as I set up.  Oh, I also set a different wireless broadcast channel on the 2nd router.  Most are set to Auto, so that might effect things, so you might want to set the channel on your original router to something else other than auto and other than the channel the 2nd router is using.  Not sure if this is important, but I think so, because the routers being close together the signals can conflict.  So, using two different signals/channel would be best.  Even better, if you use the inSSider home program I mentioned in another post above, you can see which channels are least used and pick the best channels.  Note, you pick the ones which give you least "overlap", i.e. same channels other wireless are using.  I set one to 6 and one to 11.


                      Also, one note about overlapping wireless signals/channels.  In the inSSIDer program you see none are using say channel 7 for example.  Well, it's actually not good to set a router to channel 7 because you will actually end up overlapping more wireless signals, the ones from say set at 11 and those set at 6.  The program will show you how many signals you are overlapping.


                      Good luck all.....

                      • 38. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                        leeuniverse

                        BTW, I've been using the latest Driver from Intel, the one that comes through Microsoft's Update.

                        All seems well, no connection problems save the rare router needing to be unplugged or a troubleshoot entire service to refresh the ip/connection, which is a common problem with all routers.  I can make clear Google Voice calls also VOIP (as clear as such is), while before with my work around I had serious problems with that still, was almost unusable.

                         

                        But, I now have a fully working proper internet connection as far as I can tell.  Note, haven't tested Bluetooth etc., so can't comment any issues related to those.

                        • 39. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                          ComputerSteve

                          Intel is really doing a bad drop with there updates... after so many driver updates I thought this problem would be fixed but I could say without a doubt that both my 7260 DualBand and 7260 -N are both dropping consistently. I really can't believe that this isn't getting more attention.. there are ways to improve the problem but nothing resolves it... resetting the windows 8 network stack resolves the problem temporarily, reinstalling the drivers usually does the same thing, also disabling power saver mode. However all these things are temporary I have played around with the roaming and I will say that setting the setting to highest does seem to help too. I hope that intel fixes this soon cause im gonna be disputing this computer with my credit card company it is practically unusable with unstable wifi.

                          • 40. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                            Andy_Turfer

                            I have a HP Pavilion X2 (11-h003sa) and a Toshiba P55-A5312. I temporarily had a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro but regretfully I had to return it because of this issue. All of these laptops have the Intel 7260, and all have the drop-out problem.

                             

                            I've tested with the following operating systems: Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 13.10 (on every laptop I have/had). I've also tested with a range of routers (Netgear, Apple Airport, TP-Link and tethering on my Nexus 4). Frequent sporadic dropouts occurred on all my laptops with every single operating system. Because I need to use SSH a lot, it made all my laptops borderline unusable.

                             

                            Something that worked reliably for me was to use a Netgear or TP-Link USB WiFi dongle. Not very convenient, and users shouldn't have to resort to such a workaround for new laptops they've paid good money for.

                             

                            Recently I decided to search for a better fix than carrying around (and trying not to lose) tiny USB WiFi adapters. After looking at the logs when running Linux and doing some Googling (this problem is very wide spread, and not isolated to a small number of laptops), I found the culprit to be a faulty 802.11n implementation on the part of Intel. A reliable workaround is to turn off 802.11n.

                             

                            On Windows:

                             

                            1. Open Control Panel | System Security | System.

                            2. Open Device Manager on the left hand side of the window.

                            3. Click on Network Adapters.

                            4. Right-click on Intel Wireless 7260, and click on properties.

                            5. Click on Advanced Tab.

                            6. Click on HT Mode and then select disable as an option.

                             

                            On Linux:

                             

                            1. Open terminal.

                            2. sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/wifi-disable11n.conf

                            3. Add this line: options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1

                            4. Save and restart.

                             

                            As for the possibility of a "driver update" resolving this issue - I'm skeptical this will ever happen, as from what I've seen in various threads on the Internet, this has been a known issue for quite some time (and several new drivers have been released in that time).

                             

                            Very poor show, Intel. I've returned an otherwise perfect laptop (the laptop of my dreams) because of this issue. I wonder how many other people have done the same (will do the same). I'm now waiting for something similar to the Yoga 2 Pro (i.e. high resolution display) that doesn't use Intel WiFi.

                            • 41. Re: 3 different cards/computers ALL wireless dropping...!!!
                              theveterans

                              Well, disabling HT Mode makes your computer turn back time to 2007 where current laptops still have b/g WiFi lol. Well, Intel will finally have a competition in the WiFi AC arena when new laptops with Broadcom BCM4352 NGFF form factor http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Broadcom_BCM94352Z shows up in either Q2 or Q3 of this year (just my prediction). The best way right now is to wait for official Intel drivers that will fix the disconnection / speed drops etc.

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