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    GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support

    Steven

      Hello Intel engineers,

       

      We currently provide our nano pc solutions  (Foxconn PRODUCT : NanoPC Barebones) worldwide, especially in China.

      Few of ours customers (but there more and more these last days) are upset that the GMA 3600 is not recognized by Windows 64 bits (Seven, 8 and Server 2012). We recommend our customers to install 32 bits OS instead of 64 bits OS.

      You should understand that is not good for our image. Hopefully most of our customers understand that the fault is in your side (Intel does not deliver drivers for Windows 64 bits for GMA 3600). For those who accepted, we replaced their nano pc with the same category product but with AMD architecture (Foxconn PRODUCT : NanoPC Barebones). That is the best we can do.

       

      We will continue to provide Intel Atom based nano pc, but we will put our effort on AMD architecture while you don't deliver drivers for your products.

       

       

      Regards,

       

      Steven Cheng, hardware architect for Foxconn

        • 1. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
          powerarmour

          And even the previous GMA 3150 based Atom platforms supported a 64bit video driver, can't remember many hardware scenarios where the predecessor (Pineview) was actually better supported than the successor! (Cedarview) 

          • 2. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
            jbasol

            Couldn't agree more.  I'm not sure how Intel thought no one was going to notice this.  Simply stating that no further effort is being made on their part to release functional 64bit drivers driver is completely unacceptable.

            • 3. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
              ullar

              Now, when we have an updated 32 bit Win7 driver for GMA 3600. Can we have some updating on 64 bit field also? Would be very much appreciated.

              • 4. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support

                Hi everyone,

                 

                For Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series we only have graphics drivers for Microsoft* Windows* 7 32 bit operating system that you can find at the following URL:

                 

                http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Netbook+and+Tablet+Graphics&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Graphics+Media+Accelerator+3600+Series&ProdId=3468&LineId=3332&FamilyId=39

                • 5. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                  jbasol

                  Michael,

                   

                  Thanks for the update concerning the newest 32bit Drivers.  While efforts to improve the 32bit driver are needed and are appreciated, I think there is something that Intel is missing about this issue.  The Cedartrail platform was touted as a 64bit energy efficient platform.  64BIT!!!  What good is a 64bit processor when there are no drivers to allow it's use with a 64bit OS???  I have hardware that was sold to me as capable of supporting 4GB RAM.  But it's not, as the only available drivers are for a 32bit OS which will only support 3GB.  Does Intel still not see the issue with this?  I am so annoyed by Intel's stance that they feel they can move on without finishing to deliver a product that they sold to many unsuspecting victims that I'm inclined to address the issue with our state attorney general's office.  Please just fix this so we can ALL move on!

                  • 6. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                    truemack

                    It is strange that Intel does not share the below driver that was developed in 2011: driver 8.15.8.1050 Beta 5. Search with google, there are plenty of mirrors available. I found it at this site:

                     

                    http://www.touslesdrivers.com/index.php?v_page=23&v_code=32161&v_langue=en

                     

                    I bought an Acer n270 that came with Intel's GMA 3600 video card, once I upgraded I found that there was no support from Intel for a 64 bit OS on this series of cards. There are countless Intel and Acer support threads with customers begging for information on how to resolve this, and all the response they get is "install 32-bit OS"...

                     

                    This is my first post on a support site, as I feel compelled to share what I have learned with others with the similar problem. It is inexplicable to me that this driver was already developed and Intel is not sharing it!

                    • 7. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                      powerarmour

                      That old 64bit beta driver is quite buggy though, but yes, it does prove that it's possible.

                       

                      Now, can Intel finally release an updated version?, it would be pretty sad and a weak excuse if they didn't.

                      • 8. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                        kgozar

                        Hey Guys,i think i have the xp drivers.how do i upload it here.my email address is <email removed for privacy>,will email u for free.i don't know how to upload here.i would have done it.If anyone can show me how to upload it here.its a 2MB file.

                        I don't need spam in my inbox,just trying to help.


                        • 9. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                          Diego_Intel

                          At this moment there is not an option to upload files in the discussions.

                           

                          Concerning the lack of x64 drivers for this platform, we are aware of this situation and we thank you for your feedback.

                          • 10. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                            Kory Hansen

                            It also looks like you can't share your e-mail address with the world here, either.

                            jbasol wrote:

                             

                            What good is a 64bit processor when there are no drivers to allow its use with a 64bit OS???

                            About the only thing it's good for is a desktop board paired with an actual, decent graphics chip.

                            ZOTAC D2700ITXS-A-E Motherboard&#47;CPU&#47;VGA Combo Motherboard&#47;CPU Set - Newegg.com

                            Zotac has the right idea here: integrate a proper graphics solution with real driver support from a company that cares about its products. Now if only Intel could be like Nvidia...

                            • 11. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                              Richard Balkins

                              Diego !!!!

                               

                              This means, you guys have 64 bit drivers! Already exists! Proof has been made.

                               

                              Now, yes it was buggy but you guys had to already use it as a base line template code to produce the 64 bit drivers for the graphics core in the newer Intel Atom z whatever which is PowerVR architecture. The exact VERY SAME architecture that is the GMA 3650. In fact, the GMA 3650 is mere a faster and slightly better HARDWARE wise in that it has a higher clock rate and a superior overall technical specifications.

                               

                              So, why is it that Intel doesn't get the _____ done!

                               

                              First off.... basic computer science 101 for you, all drivers for a video chip boils down to communicating to machine level and transmitting values to the graphics chip (in this case, integrated onto the same die as the cpu but it is not the cpu, EITHER !!!!) registers. When you write drivers on a multitask OS, you go through APIs which all boils down to ultimately to the registers of the video chip. Since we are talking about a "GPU" then we are talking about something kind of like an ADVANCED form of the TMS9918 Video Display Processor - an early pioneer of "Graphic Processors". Unlike other video display chips of its time and even for several years since its introduction, it was a "PROCESSOR" vs. simply a memory mapped register switch 'table'. You actually had a "graphic processor machine language" much like a microprocessor. After all, the TMS 9918 was essentially a microprocessor like the TMS9900 microprocessor with which the 9918 had special registers and instructions and functionality particularly designed and built for graphics. Fast forward some 30+ years and today's graphics are in themselves actual "processors" and not just a bunch of registers that can be given values and do something. There is an actual graphic processor 'machine language' to these graphic chips. From my understanding, the PowerVR based graphics processor is speaking the same 'machine language' in current intel atom processors and the GMA3650 graphic processor integrated in the Intel D2700. Besides memory mapped registers and GPU processing languages are in most part the same. The drivers should almost work right out of the box for any PowerVR based GPUs.

                               

                              FWIW: WDDM is simply an abstraction layer. You guys already made WDDM 1.2 compliant drivers for current PowerVR-based graphics. So, what's the deal? Why can't it work? Come on? Your very source code for graphics  drivers for Intel z2760 is already 95-99% correct for making the D2700 work. You just need to relabel some IDs so as to match the D2700 'id' and maybe a few modest changes and timing adjustments to deal with the clock rate difference of the D2700's GMA3650 and the z2760.

                               

                              You may also have a few register memory mapped location differences but come on. Easy to make the changes for.... for a software programmer.

                               

                              REALLY... what's the barrier. After all, you have 32-bit drivers for Windows 7... oh.. wait.. that's WDDM !!!! WDDM 1.1. Seriously, we all know that there is video cards with WDDM 1.2 compliant drivers that don't make any more uses of features already available and supported in WDDM 1.1.

                               

                              No more excuses from you guys. Get the drivers ready by Christmas holiday season. It shouldn't take more than maybe 1-2 months to actually get it done and working.

                               

                              You already have a good working code base. Turn off driver features present in z2760 that isn't present in the D2700. Also, there is already good working CPU processor driver code for Windows 8 for the actual Intel Atom D2700 microprocessor core itself. It is the graphic drivers component. The only other features that I can think of in the z2760 that isn't in the d2700 is irrelevant to graphics itself. I see no practical difference in the GPU for any reason that would prevent it from working on Windows 8. In fact, you are using the SAME graphic processor in all essence and that the d2700's gpu is really a faster version clocked at 640MHz (IIRC) compared to 533 MHz.

                               

                              Other than a little bit faster clock rate, there is no reason that you guys can't make the graphics drivers for the z2760 work on the d2700 atom. Binarily, they are basically the same processor just like using the drivers codes for programming a TMS9918 would drive the V9958 and driver code to drive the v9958 would largely drive the TMS9918 where they are the same. In the case of the TMS9918/V9958... there is more degree of difference than the d2700's GMA3650 and the PowerVR used in the z2760. Seriously, lets quit the b.s. story and jerking us around. Tell this and forward my message to the powers at be. It should be a simple task.

                               

                              It would have likely cost less money to have made the drivers than all this time dealing with all these threads.

                               

                              It is insanely silly that Intel... a multi-BILLION dollar corporation couldn't spend the minute amount of money to make the driver. It would probably cost less than $250,000... less than what it cost to buy a modest house. I seriously would think it would be easily done in less than 1/3 of the price. I doubt more than $50K would even need to be spent.

                               

                              Either provide the very exact technical reason why it can not be done.... I don't mean some executive jerkoff as the reason. If it is some management/executive that is the problem... give the jerk the pink sheet. If there is no technical reason to reasonably do it then it get it done or provide me the following:

                               

                              1. Source code to drivers for d2700 and pertinent driver source code for z2760

                              2. All documents necessary to perform the work.

                              3. Authorization to distribute the information to parties necessary to organize a driver set development team

                              4. Access to direct communication with CederTrail & CloverTrail devs including software driver devs for CedarTrail and also CloverTrail so we can resolve the matters of the drivers for the D2700 and possibly a number of other drivers. The Intel team would need to be involved for Quality Assurance testing of the drivers and overall guidance because of their involvement and knowledge of the matters.

                               

                              Considering it would be a "derivative work", it would also be CLEARLY understood that the proprietary rights for the source code and new drivers would ultimately belong to Intel.

                               

                              It would be nice if we get some working cooperation or Intel gets the drivers made.

                               

                              I can not POSSIBLY find any real hardware reason why d2700's GMA3650 would not work in Windows 8 64-Bit. The cpu was a true 64-bit "x86-64" cpu after all. Unlike most other Atom's INCLUDING the z2760. It runs Windows 8 Pro - 64 BIT EDITION.

                               

                              The GMA 3650 should work fine. After all.... z2760 uses a PowerVR SGX545 core. The GMA 3650 is a PowerVR SGX545 based gpu core. What's the difference?

                               

                              Intel staff.... don't waste my time or anyone's time with pre-canned statements like "we'll forward it appropriate department for future consideration" or "We thank you for your feedback, we are aware of the situation..." or pointing us to a particular thread link about Intel official support... blah blah blah OR anything similar to the above. I want serious response from the techs and those with decision making authority. I don't want circle-jerking or anything like that.... yeah... placed in the circular file for future consideration as if anyone ever really looks into the circular file for future consideration. Don't b.s. me with lies. We KNOW better than that. No one looks to the trash can for things of future consideration so seriously... I only know that someone with the authority to make decisions OR part of the technical department if they personally respond specifically to the comment.

                               

                              I would want these people to stop hiding behind human shields like a bunch of wusses and actually are man enough to face the customers.

                              • 12. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                                gggggg

                                GMA 3600 Drivers For Windows 7 x64 - YouTube    кто пробывал вот этот ?

                                • 13. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                                  Xaman

                                  Station-Drivers - Intel (Chipset)

                                   

                                   

                                  I found this site with the drive of Atom z2760 (clove trail) and i saw that
                                  the drive has de same names but i can´t install them.

                                   

                                   

                                  Can someone mod this drive to work on GMA3600?

                                   

                                   

                                  sorry for my english!!!

                                  • 14. Re: GMA 3600, Windows 64 bits support
                                    nylar

                                    I have x64 running on a gateway LT4004u (total piece of @!^#$#$) with the GMA 3600 and an unsigned driver that's been mentioned elsewhere on these forums. Works fine, I can even run aero if I want to throw a heavy duty cycle on my fan. Maybe good for vacuuming my desk with the intake haha.

                                     

                                    Anyway aero isn't even close to the point, rather that I was able to go x64 really easily once pointed in the right direction:

                                     

                                    Response #1 of this gets you a nice unsigned driver: https://communities.intel.com/thread/25242

                                     

                                    Then bartgrefte explains here that you need to unpack it and go in through device manager to update driver and locate the .inf file at %unpacked directory%\VGA\Graphics\igdlh64.inf

                                     

                                    This was the last hitch in getting the brightness (backlight) adjustment to work on a netbook I just upgraded for my father.

                                     

                                    Kudos to everyone but Intel here.

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