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    i7 2630 QM maximum memory

    JoaoMOS

      I own a ASUS G73SW which has a i7 2630 QM processor.

      According to ASUS the computer is expansible to 16 GB of memory.

      It's motherboard has 4 slots, 2 of them populated with 2 x 4 GBb SODIMM DDR3 1333MHZ.

      But, when I see the specifications of this processor, they say maximum memory 8 GB, but in little words - depending on memory type.

      As the memory controller, in i7 generation, lives in the processor chip, and being the memory controller the one who establlishes the amount of memory supported, I am confused.

      The BIOS and motherboard will certanly accept 16 GB of memory. But I am affraid that the CPU won't recognise it.

      As I want to make the memory upgrade, I ask if someone can help me with this question.

      Will i7 2630 QM accept 16 GB of memory, 4 x Samsung M471B5273CH0-CH9 DDRIII-1333 4096MB?

        • 1. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
          Adolfo_Intel

          This processor will support up to 8 GB RAM, so higher than that will not be recognized.

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          • 2. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
            JoaoMOS

            I just don't know if you are Intel member, but if so, I think you must adverttise ASUS, because they are making a mistake announcing the upgradable capability and worst, preparing themselfs to make the upgrade of my computer in their technical services, because one of the free slots stays in the back of the motherboard.

            • 3. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory

              ASUS is insisting with me to send my equipment to their technical services in order to upgrade the memory to 16 GB.

              I'm going to put this question to ASUS, saying that what they are selling to me is wrong. Worst: What they sold to me doesn't correspond to what is announced..

              I presume that you Adolfo_Intel belong to INTEL staff, because you use an Intel logo as your image.

              Please, confirm to me that I am correct in order that I can proceed with my claim.

              • 4. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                JoaoMOS

                ASUS is insisting with me to send my equipment to their technical services in order to upgrade the memory to 16 GB.

                I'm going to put this question to ASUS, saying that what they are selling to me is wrong. Worst: What they sold to me doesn't correspond to what is announced..

                I presume that you Adolfo_Intel belong to INTEL staff, because you use an Intel logo as your image.

                Please, confirm to me that I am correct in order that I can proceed with my claim.

                • 5. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory

                  Last night I put 8 more gig of memory in my AsusN53SV-XV1 that has a Intel 2630QM in it.   The laptop has 4 memory slots and claims to support 16 gig total.   The addition of the 8 gig brings my total up to 12 gig.  The Windows 7 home premium x64 operating system and BIOS both saw the 12gig and it was usable by Win7.

                  • 6. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                    JoaoMOS

                    Thanks for your post Tom.

                    This is the reason why I insisted with a reinforced answer from Adolf_Intel.

                    What do you say about this Adolf_Intel?

                    The Bios can see the memory. That's normal and has nothing to do with CPU.

                    But about Windows seing it, I think taht it only is possible through the CPU.

                    Can you clarify me please?

                    • 7. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory

                      What Adolf Intel is saying is that the cpu can only avail of the the 12gb ram installed. Yes the mobo and windows recognized the rams but you have to find a way that the cpu is really using them all.

                      • 8. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory

                        Correction: the cpu can only avail 8 gb maximum. Sorry for the omission.

                        • 9. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                          JoaoMOS

                          Excuse me but you are signed as guest.

                          Are you someone from INTEL or even Adolf_Intel?

                          I need to have a definitive and concrete understand about this question.

                          ASUS says in the computer specs that it is upgradable to 16 GB.

                          ASUS insists and is waiting for my computer to upgrade it, because one of the free slots is not acessible unless you dismount the computer.

                          Tom says that his OS recognises the phisycal amount of memory he has.

                          As long as I know it's the OS that makes the mapping between the virtual memory and the phisical one.

                          So, if CPU doesn't recognize it we will have pages of programs placed in a non acessible memory.

                          Worst. How can OS access it if the CPU doesn't have means to go there.

                          I think that OS works with CPU, not with BIOS.

                          • 10. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory

                            JoaoMOS wrote:

                             

                            Excuse me but you are signed as guest.

                            Are you someone from INTEL or even Adolf_Intel?

                            I need to have a definitive and concrete understand about this question.

                            ASUS says in the computer specs that it is upgradable to 16 GB.

                            ASUS insists and is waiting for my computer to upgrade it, because one of the free slots is not acessible unless you dismount the computer.

                            Tom says that his OS recognises the phisycal amount of memory he has.

                            As long as I know it's the OS that makes the mapping between the virtual memory and the phisical one.

                            So, if CPU doesn't recognize it we will have pages of programs placed in a non acessible memory.

                            Worst. How can OS access it if the CPU doesn't have means to go there.

                            I think that OS works with CPU, not with BIOS.

                            Not working for Intel nor siding with Adolf Intel.

                             

                            Asus is correct in stating that their mb can accomodate up 16 gb of ram.

                            Based on Tom's report, Windows is correct in recognizing the installed 12 gb ram.

                            Adolf Intel is correct in pointing out that the processor can only work or operate a process one time (this is different from recognizing) up to a maximum of 8 gb ram only.

                             

                            What I'm pointing out is that a way should be found to verify that the processor can really used up the installed 12 gb ram in one task/process or verify Adolf Intel's statement.

                            • 11. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                              JoaoMOS

                              I don't know your name. So I'll call you Guest. OK?

                              What Adolf_Intel said is that the i7 2630 QM only recognizes 8 GB of memory. The rest will be ignored.

                              A CPU has its own address space defined for RAM memory.

                              The rest of the bits of the addressing space refer to ROM (BIOS), PCI, USB, Keyboard, Mouse, Printers, Graphic Cards, Hard Drives, Ethernet and so on. And when I say bits I refer even bits, let’s say that a space that can contain Petabytes of addresses can only refer one address or a few of them.

                              This is the way a CPU addresses, or multiplexes, the assembly (opcode) instructions that refer to any peripheral component and how it communicates with it.

                              So, if the space defined for addressing RAM memory in 2630 QM only can refer to 8 GB, it's because the bits reserved only can contain those 8.589.934.592 memory positions.

                              And this is in concrete what Adolf_Intel refers, not that the processor can operate a process at one time. At least that's what I understood.

                              No doubt a CPU can operate only one process at one time. But we live today in a multiprocessing environment. And what makes that possible is the Operating System (OS), which is permanently giving and getting processes to the CPU. If you open your Task Manager you will see the amount of processes that the OS is keeping running. Each one has its own physical address space, defined by the OS which paginates the instructions and data of each program (process) and places them in the physical memory and in the page file or swap file, as you wish. The physical addresses will be those where the CPU can go.

                              The instructions of a program contain virtual addresses and it is the Memory Manager Unit which converts then virtual in physical addresses, in the form of pages of 4 KB, and manages the 3 cache levels, the RAM memory and the HD (page file). The MMU is part of the hardware in the CPU chip and is the OS which places there the values for the pages in RAM and in Disk.

                              As you see, the OS and the CPU work together in a perfect union.

                              There comes my question. How can the OS see what the CPU doesn’t?

                              And I place exactly the same question that you do: How can we verify thnat the CPU only sees 8 GB of memory, if the OS can see 12 GB?

                               

                              ASUS is sure of what it says. And their warranty is not given in a forum, where anyone can be anybody. They say it in their specifications and they confirm it through their technical services, after I called their attention to the question. And ASUS isn’t properly an amateur Laptop assembler!

                               

                              And our question remains essentially in one single question: Where is Intel when we need their support? How can we talk to their technical services to obtain a definitive answer to this question? Till now I can’t see where. I think that a Forum is not enough to such a question. I don’t even know if Adolf_Intel is a nickname, which most probably will be.

                               

                              Please, if someone from Intel is reading this, give us a correct explanation about this question, but in the form of an Intel technical answer. Is it possible?

                              • 12. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                                prmvh

                                I have an ACER 7750g with 8Gb (2*4Gb) and an ASUS 1215n with 8Gb (2*4Gb) at home, I will install 16Gb (4*4Gb) into the ACER and make some tests

                                 

                                I will tell you more in max 10h from now

                                • 13. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                                  JoaoMOS

                                  Thank's prmvh

                                  • 14. Re: i7 2630 QM maximum memory
                                    prmvh

                                    cpu2.pngCPU.png

                                    I loaded the system by having

                                    - 2 World of Warcraft logged into stormwind

                                    - 1 vmware player running linux

                                    - 7 notepad with a divx into each to load the RAM

                                     

                                    the system is running Windows 7 Home premium 64bits (French)

                                     

                                    it seems the CPU is able to handle the whole 16Gb

                                     

                                    hope it will help

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