7 Replies Latest reply on Feb 19, 2011 5:14 AM by redux

    NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?

    xebone

      Intel 510 SSD .

      Leakes specs say:  (http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/laufwerke/flashspeicher/2011/januar/schnellere-ssds-von-intel-bereits-im-februar/)

       

      Seq READ: 450 MB/s

      SEq Write:  300 MB/s

      20k random read @4K

      4k random write @4K

       

      Hope its just a different messureing with the random read/writes, then rest of SSD manifactures, cause otherwise its

      way slower than even Intel G2.

       

      Anyone got more official Info than those?

      http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/nand/feature/index.htm

        • 1. Re: NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?
          parsec

          Very interesting, at first glance one might think it would be similar to the '310, but the description does not match, and no mention of the mSATA connection.  I can't read German, so I'm sure I missed important information from the page you provided.

           

          Speculation on the specs is dangerous since I don't have the full picture.  Given what we see, I wonder if the marketing people are going the high sequential numbers direction and abandoning the IOPs to cater to the less educated consumer.  The 310 is not a G3 SSD, since it uses 34nm NAND chips, and we don't know what the 510 uses, yet it's sequential specs are beyond G2 territory, so does it use 25nm NAND chips?  Then we have the similar naming of the 310 and 510, the purpose of which escapes me.  Or is that just more of Intel's sometimes odd SSD model nomenclature?

           

          Speculation is futile, give me data!

          • 2. Re: NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?

            Its 34nm , 25nm was postboned.

            The info in the german article is provided by Fudzilla.

             

            http://www.fudzilla.com/memory/item/21656-new-34nm-ssd-have-450/300mb/s-r/w

             

            Sometimes info there is true, sometime not.

            This time its corrrect since the 510 is already mentioned on the INtel HP ;o)

            • 3. Re: NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?
              parsec

              Yes, the 510 is listed among a list of Intel SSDs on Intel's web site, so that is correct and never disputed.  I tried to translate the German article, but the translation program didn't do very well.  I was still able to pick out a couple of things in the article that are interesting, if they are true.

               

              In the following, the text in parenthesis are comments added by me.  The other text is my paraphrasing of the translated article.

               

              The article said that the IMFT 25nm NAND chips (that were supposed to be used in Intel G3 drives) were having "life span" problems.  (The term postponed was never used in the article.)

               

              The article claims that OCZ is currently producing an SSD that use the same IMFT 25nm NAND chips, but states they have the life span problems "in their grasp", to quote the translated article.

               

              Sound mildly tabloid, doesn't it.  At best, I would characterize these articles as mostly rumors for now, and hopefully we'll get some better information from someone like AnandTech or other PC review web site soon, no offense to the German website Computer Base.

               

              If the 25nm NAND chips are having longevity problems, that's a shame of course, but it would seem Intel is taking the high road with it's products and not rushing to market.  Thanks, I can wait.

               

              Regardless, if the 510 SSD is a G2 product (perhaps G2.5) it is interesting given it's specs and that it uses 34nm NAND chips.  Does it have a new controller, or different firmware algorithms, or both?  Or different 34nm NAND chips?

               

              Is there anything you can tell us DuckieHo?

              • 4. Re: NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?
                DuckieHo

                While smaller processes result in lower write endurance, companies are working ways around the limitation.  This is just another barrier and progress will continue.

                 

                 

                Here's an article about 25nm NAND + ECC as proposed by Micron (Intel's partner in NAND production): http://www.anandtech.com/show/4043/micron-announces-clearnand-25nm-with-ecc

                • 5. Re: NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?
                  SSDelightful

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                  • 7. Re: NEW Intel SSD 510 found - what is it? When more offical?
                    redux

                    Don't know if this is correct but info is starting to surface:

                     

                    Capacity Product Code Product Description Line First Availability
                    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    510-Series
                    120GB SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5” 6Gb/s MLC 9.5mm 34nm 2H Q1
                    250GB SSDSC2MH250A2K5 2.5” 6Gb/s MLC 9.5mm 34nm 2H Q1

                     

                    320-Series
                    40GB SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Reseller Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    40GB SSDSA2CT040G3B5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Retail Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    40GB SSDSA2CT040G310 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Brown Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    80GB SSDSA2CW080G3K5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Reseller Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    80GB SSDSA2CW080G3B5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Retail Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    80GB SSDSA2CW080G310 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Brown Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    120GB SSDSA2CW120G3K5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Reseller Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    120GB SSDSA2CW120G3B5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Retail Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    120GB SSDSA2CW120G310 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Brown Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    160GB SSDSA2CW160G3K5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Reseller Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    160GB SSDSA2CW160G3B5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Retail Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    160GB SSDSA2CW160G310 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Brown Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    300GB SSDSA2CW300G3K5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Reseller Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    300GB SSDSA2CW300G3B5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Retail Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    300GB SSDSA2CW300G310 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Brown Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    600GB SSDSA2CW600G3K5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Reseller Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    600GB SSDSA2CW600G3B5 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Retail Box) 25nm Mar'11
                    600GB SSDSA2CW600G310 2.5" MLC 9.5mm (Brown Box) 25nm Mar'11

                     

                    The 510-Series is already listed on some e-retailer sites. 

                     

                    Intel 510 Series
                    Aansluiting: SATA600
                    Capaciteit: 250GB
                    Type geheugen: MLC
                    Leessnelheid: 450MB/s
                    Schrijfsnelheid: 300MB/s
                    IOPS: 20000
                    Seek time: 0.1ms
                    Formaat: 2.5"


                    Price including tax: € 510.50