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    Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board

    fantab

      Hello,

       

      I am having problem updating BIOS for my DG45ID. I have never before updated the BIOS for the said board and the BIOS version [IDGH4510H.86A.0007.2008.0725.1734] I have is the same one since I purchased the board.

       

      I have only yesterday moved from Windows VISTA X86 to Windows 7 X86. No problems with move except that I could not rate my computer ["could not measure storage performance] using Windows Experience Index [WEI]. It reports an "error: failed to properly access the disk. The parameter is incorrect".

       

      As I wanted to fix it I googled around and found a couple of relevant possible solutions; one being to update my BIOS. I used EXPRESS [.EXE] method to update BIOS... The update fails reporting that there is "internal program error". I even tried updating in the SAFE MODE to discourage the Antivirus and Firewall from causing any further inconvenience but to no avail. 

       

      Can someone PLEASE suggest a solution to fix the problem I am having?

        • 1. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
          mechbob

          The BIOS you have now is pretty OLD , I've had problems updating BIOS's, Before by skipping from a old one right to the newest one . If you still have a working BIOS old or not , you might want to try going step by step on the up dates, If you are going to use the EXE. save it to your desktop go off line , disable all security and any firewalls and try again . Look up the BIOS history , if I remember it was 129 than 131 , on my two machines that use The DG45ID, It is a good board .

          • 2. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
            mechbob

            Since this board was first built there have been 20 BIOS UP dates , I did not see any that said 007. there was 0071,0075,0077,  check what # you have now and go to the next one.

            • 3. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
              fantab

              OOps! My bad......... I meant 0077 and not 0007.

               

              Thanks Robert for your reply... I really appreciate it. I will follow your suggestion and try to update my BIOS with step by step updates... Lets see it it solves my problem......

               

              Thanks again.......

              • 4. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                fantab

                I could not update BIOS using the EXPRESS method... so I used ISO method and successfully updated my BIOS to 0085 version... when I tried to update to the next version [0087] the update failed.... and now there is just a black screen and nothing... don't know what to do next...

                 

                Should I do a BIOS Recovery?... which I don't know how to... I don't know how to make a bootable USB....

                 

                Please suggest some possible solutions......

                 

                Thanks

                 

                 

                Ok... I tried BIOS Recovery by making a bootable USB... Nothing happens... just the black screen.

                 

                Message was edited by: fantab

                • 5. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                  Flying_Kiwi

                  fantab wrote:

                   

                  I could not update BIOS using the EXPRESS method... so I used ISO method and successfully updated my BIOS to 0085 version... when I tried to update to the next version [0087] the update failed.... and now there is just a black screen and nothing... don't know what to do next...


                  I seem to recall a message on Intels website stating that the Express mode wasn't compatible with updating from version 077 (or was it 087?? - have a read of the BIOS release notes) so the iso method may have been the only way to go. How did the update from 00085 to 0087 fail  - ie what happened during the process and which method did you use for that update? Was there a power outage part way through? Did the update go through the usual Intel splash screen after the end of flash reboot before the black screen?

                   

                  The Express method is really Intels preferred method of BIOS updating and I prefer it where possible because it's the simplest and safest way to go. No CDROM burning or boot disk making is required. To get this sorted we need to know a little more about what state the motherboard is now in - hence the questions. As for the possibility of recovery, that is all explained in full on Intels website (assuming you have access to read that as you can still post here). If you're at all uncertain what to do next - even after reading the instructions thoroughly (and that includes how to make a bootable USB disk), I'd suggest you contact a computer shop and get them to upgrade your BIOS to the latest version. It sounds like your bootable USB disk for recovery may have a problem and this sort of stuff (along with OS updates) is the bread and butter of many computer shops.

                  • 6. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                    yf38

                    Hi fantab,

                    I have two DG45id boards and had often upgraded their bios using CD recovery method.

                    It is easy.

                    - First make a normal copy of the the .BIO bios file on a blank CD CD/RW, using any cd burning software.

                    - Then open the drive tray of your system and put the CD in,

                    - remove the mains cord from your system to ensure ir is completely off,

                    - remove the specific bios jumper to leave the 3 pins open (have a look at Intel documents)

                    - plug the mains cord and wait.

                     

                    The process is not fast and obvious, you may see the system powering on and then off and on...

                    At some moment you should see the cd ligh blinking, meaning things are going the right way.

                    Normaly, you should see some messages on your screen, provided it is à VGA or DVI one (not sure if it is HDMI).

                    It takes maybe 3 or 4 mn to complete.

                    Then you should power off (be sure it is complete !)  replace the jumper, after removing mains cord, preferably in the maintenance position to be sure to get the control to go to the bios screen.

                    Restaure optimal settings, and then your favorite ones, check specificaly AHCI / IDE choice, and dont forget to disable C state, leaving C1E enabled.

                    Once completed shut down (if I remember well it asks to replace the jumper in the normal position).

                    It is a good idea to remove the mains cord before all jumper move, to be sure it is taken into account.

                    Put the jumper in the normal position and restart normaly.

                    With one of my two systems I got nothing on the screen during the flashing process, I dont know why, however the 0131 bios was correctly installed.

                    Of course, in this case, I let the process complete, without any feedback, for at least 10mn to be sure it reached the end.

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                    • 7. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                      fantab

                      Hi

                      and thanks for all your replies/suggestions...

                       

                      Firstly, the problem with 'black screen' - was due to the SMPS failure... I replaced it with the new one and the problem is solved. Secondly, the Windows Experience Index [WEI] is working well and has successfully rated my PC.

                       

                      However the trouble with updating BIOS still persists. Like I have reported earlier... I could successfully update from 0077 to 0085 using the ISO method. But since that update no other update has been successful... neither EXPRESS nor ISO, nor the BOOTABLE USB/DISK method.

                       

                      • Regarding the ISO method to update the Bios -  after I select the Bootable Drive with ISO CD in I am prompted to press keys to facilitate update installation and after that nothing happens, just the black screen stays and stays (I have waited for more than an hour to see what happens - Nothing)
                      • Same thing happens with the EXPRESS method - Windows informs that Bios is being updated and the System shuts down to install update and the Black Screen appears... and I wait and wait nothing happens for even an hour.

                       

                      After both Installation methods I am forced to switch the power off and restart....... when I check the Bios from F2 I can see that the Bios has not been updated. However after restarting from Express update failure Windows throws up a notification that my Bios has been successfully updated... which infact has not.

                       

                      I am still as confused as i was during my first post. I don't understand what I am doing wrong... or what is going wrong.

                      • 8. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                        yf38

                        What I suggested you in the previous post is none of the methods you listed, it is recovery bios update.

                        The CD is not the bootable CD it is just a CD containing only the file ID0131P.BIO

                        If you look at the releases notes file available with bios 0131 and go down to release after 079 you see that only some methods can be used to cross this boundary.

                        The same appears at other places, Bios 091 is also a specific boundary.

                        Updating with CD recovery method is allways listed as a solution to these problems.

                        Because of this, and also my own experience, I suggested you to use CD recovery update method.

                         

                        Maybe it would be better, before doing that, to make a clear cmos procedure, or at least to restore standard bios settings.

                        This may help to start from a cleaner situation.

                         

                        edit typo...

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                        • 9. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                          fantab

                          Ok... yf38

                           

                          I have read your instructions carefully and have them printed... I am proceeding with your suggestion with my fingers crossed.

                           

                          and by the way what do you mean by "make a clear cmos procedure"? I will however, until then, restore my BIOS optimum settings and continue...

                           

                          Thanks

                          • 10. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                            yf38

                            Hi,

                            Clear cmos means to remove all pertinent information located in the cmos volatile memory backed up by the lithium CR2032 battery.

                            This will force the bios to reinstall standard values at power up, even at locations that maybe are not modified by the normal "set default settings" command.

                            If no other method is written in the specs, this can be done by removing the mains plug and then removing the CR2032 battery for "several" mn.

                            After that your reinstall the battery, power up, and go to the bios setup to check again and put your own settings.

                            It is probably not necessary to do that, it may be kept for a second chance trial.

                             

                            About update with recovery bios CD what I explained is to be taken as a complement of what is written in Intel documentation.

                            It should be the same, with my own comments,  however it is a good idea to read also their notes.

                            I never had problem with this method, except for the board not displaying the process on the screen, but it was the same with this board and another method..

                            Good luck.

                            • 11. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                              fantab

                              Hi,

                               

                              @ yf38 - I tried to update my BIOS to 0131 using CD RECOVERY METHOD according to your instructions and also following Intel's instructions as per their READ ME.PDF.

                              Like one of your PC with DG45ID board even my PC would not let me have any display on my monitor. The CD light kept blinking periodically during the process. And since no instructions were displayed, I waited for 15 mins. to make sure the update was complete (like you suggested). However, after replacing the jumper correctly and restarting my computer, when I checked my BIOS version I was disappointed as it had not updated and displayed my last updated version, 0085.

                               

                              Either something is wrong with my Desktop Board or I am doing something wrong. I am clueless.

                              I haven't yet tried the iFLASH method... I will give it too a try and see.

                               

                              I am thinking of gettig an expert technician to do the job for me. Since my PC is an assembled one, I am having some difficulty in finding a proper tech.

                               

                              Meanwhile if you guys can offer any help it will be very helpful.

                               

                              Thanks.

                              • 12. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                                Flying_Kiwi

                                The recovery method is intended to recover the version thats already on the system (or partly installed/corrupted) it's not intended as a way to update to a newer BIOS version. There's no surprise therefore that your BIOS version is unchanged. Try the recovery version with the same version you already have displayed and THEN after thats run through and jumpers have been reset etc try updating using the Express method. If it's still not working, try a recovery to your previous BIOS version in case the version which appears to be in place, hasn't fully/correctly installed. If this isn't at all clear then I agree it may be time to use the services of a fully trained computer technician at your local PC specialists shop to do the work for you. BIOSes are not something to be taken lightly and doing things wrongly (or having power outages mid-flash etc) has the potential to trash the board.

                                • 13. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                                  yf38

                                  @FK:

                                  You are right saying that recovery method is intended to recover from partialy corrupted bios, because other methods are simpler to use (no jumper to move).

                                  You are wrong, saying that recovery CD method only repair the same revision.

                                  I have used it at least to upgrade 4 times the bios revision on one board (083, 0117, 0129, 0131) and two times with the other (0129, 0131).

                                  Each time the bios was completly upgraded, and with the one displaying the progress I can see that it is the same as other methodfs.

                                  @fantab:

                                  I suspect that the bios was unable, for any reason,  to read your CD, assuming that your board has no other hardware problem.

                                  • 14. Re: Problem updating Bios for DG45ID Desktop Board
                                    Flying_Kiwi

                                    yf38 wrote:

                                     

                                    I have used it at least to upgrade 4 times the bios revision on one board (083, 0117, 0129, 0131) and two times with the other (0129, 0131).

                                    Each time the bios was completly upgraded, and with the one displaying the progress I can see that it is the same as other methodfs


                                    I don't doubt it worked under normal upgrade circumstances too for you yf38 but it is intended for recovering bioses and in that regard if there is a problem with a previously corrupted instal (where it appears to have gone through fine but other problems arise such as an inability to upgrade further), it makes sence to go back to basics and use the recovery route for what it's intended ie recovering the same version of a corrupted BIOS only. It may not work with the 085 BIOS version which 'looks to' have installed OK but if it doesn't, it should definitely work with the previous version. If this doesn't work (or fantab is getting fed up with the whole thing) then it's time to take it into the shop for the pros to take a look. Done right, BIOS's are straight forward things to flash but make a mistake and it can be disaster.

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