Patrick McSwain wrote:
This is my first multi-CPU build, so be gentle. This is a workstation build.
First have you download the product TPS? It contains most of the answers I am pasting in below.
I don't have answers to all your issues, but i can say I have 2 of these Workstations and they are the fastest mort reliable systems I have ever owned. Mine are the high end with the X5687 processors with the BXSTS100C heatsink and the Hot swap drive bays so I never had issues with HDD connectors. I can't recall which video cards I end up.
When you get everything up and running, make sure the first thing you do is update the complete Firmware stack. Intel fixes issues as quickly as possiable and most fixes are in the code stacks.
Code stack Link:
I bought these three Intel P/N's due to Intel's reputation for quality, and I need this system to last 5 years minimum. These are listed on the Intel site as a matching set.
As I'm trying to build this, I keep hitting roadblocks:
1) No CPU fans (which do I use?) Website docs implied these were included with case. Need correct P/N for in-stock Intel fan.
The chassis is designed to work with Intel® Xeon® processor 5500 series & 5600 series with 130W maximum power, and is compatible with BXSTS100C (Combo) or BXSTS100A (Active) heat sink.
2) Only 2 SATA power connectors, and not long enough to do more than power the DVD drive. Never seen a powersupply with so few HDD connectors.
3) No on-board video as delivered. Website indicated on-board video is included. Need P/N for whatever it takes to activate it.
Onboard Video Header
The adapter cable accessory (FXXSCVDCBL) is required to convert the internal onboard video header to a 15-pin D-Sub
(This is a very low resolution management video feed. For a workstation, I would strongly recommend a good add in video card.)
4) Holes in HDD cage are too small for SATA power connectors. Minor issue, I guess I buy a bunch of AT-SATA adapter Y-connectors.
5) Rear RS-232 isn't DB9, my lab equipment is DB9. Is there an adapter? Or figure out how to route the other RS-232 externally?
For applications that require a DB9 serial connector, you must use an 8-pin RJ45-to-DB9 adapter (Accessory AXXRJ45DB92).
And I imagine there will be several other "missing" parts, if I found all this out in the first 20 minutes.
Complete (I think) list of all spares
Do they make a kit to put a S5520SCR into the SC5620WS? Is there a P/N for it?
Or how do I hunt down all the Intel parts one-by-one to actually build these into a computer? I'll be honest, I'm getting close to returning everything and going to Opteron/Supermicro. I have mostly AMD single CPU machines, and never run into so many issues.
Also a suggestion: Your case has ~ 40 numbered mobo holes. Why not just include the numbers in the mobo instructions? No big deal, but more of a general indication on how unfriendly using these "matched" parts are. I paid a premium, so I expected premium docs.
Sorry if I come off as a bit grumpy, but I have to have this up and running before Dec. 23.
Sorry that you have met so many problems... I'll try to answer one by one. The following resources might be helpful for you:
1) CPU fans are sold separately for Xeon 5500 and 5600 series. See here for details.
2) Yes it has only 2 SATA power connectors, and the cable is routed to the front of fixed drive bay for easy access. For DVD drive, the user guide says "An additional 4-pin IDE male-to-SATA 15 pin power cable adapter may be needed if the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM does not have a 4-pin power connector." In a configuration of more that two HDDs, most likely it's a RAID configuration, and a hot swap backplane would be used. If that not the case, you may need some 4-pin IDE male-to-SATA 15 pin power cable adapters.
3) To use on-board video, following accessory is required:
FXXSCVDCBL 901767 Internal video cable to external VGA port for Intel Workstation Board S5520SC
4) I think the whole is big enough for SATA power connectors... See the attachment and make sure the cable are routed correctly.
5) There is a Serial B (COM2) cable in the box, which converts the DH-10 serial connector to DB-9. You may also order following accessory:
AXXRJ45DB92 881944 Contains two serial cable converter dongles (RJ45 to DB9) one for DSD and one for DCD (modem). The kit also includes one serial ribbon cable for cabling 2nd serial port from the baseboard.
And yes there is a integrated system SC5650SCWSR, MM# 907332 or SC5650SCWSRNA, MM# 905767 (with North American power cord)
As for the mobo mounting holes, the instruction of installing standoffs is in the SC5650 Quick start guide. For S5520SC, standoffs should be installed at the following positions: K, L1, F, 3, E, J1, A, C and D, while there is a push pin already installed at position N.
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OK, I found the VGA header on CDW but it will take over a week to receive. I guess I'm going to proceed with the assembly, then if things don't work out, I'll do an article on it with pictures before returning it.
I found the "C" fans on New Egg, and I believe the "hot swap" cage will resolve the SATA power issue?
I ordered the RMM3 since I can't tell whether it's necessary.
Come on guys, that VGA header is a necessary component and costs about $1 wholesale, but costs the end-user $30+ when you include shipping.
Is there a "single source" for Intel components? This "Where's Waldo" system of computer assembly sucks.
Unable to prove that the Intel RJ45>DB9 actually exists.
PS - Your web forum is busted. The cursor is tracking 8 spaces to the right. This is using IE8 on a Win7 Pro i7 notebook. This makes it difficult to edit anything. There is cheap or free Forum software that works much better than whatever you folk are using
PSS - I still have 5 more computers to replace before Jan 1, this build is the second LGA 1366 build this week. I must say this is the first time I've been really disappointed by Intel parts in 25+ years. I retired an original 80486DX-33 last summer that ran for 20 years 24/7. This LGA 1366 stuff is for the birds. .
Thanks y'all. The delay in posting makes some of my second post invalid.
In any case, if I'm reading the instructions correctly there are some management functions of the mobo that will only work with the on-board vid chipset VGA header. But more importantly when I build a system, I put the minimum stuff on it, boot it, then add from there. This saves a lot of time if there are mobo/ram/case/video issues.
Yes, once it's up and running it's getting dual 1920x1200 monitors from a single Fermi card that will be taken out of the existing workstation. I'm not shutting that computer down just to test the new box.
No, a SATA power plug will not fit through the factory HDD cage. A SATA connector is 24x20mm and the holes are less than 18mm. It's an AT cage.
I assume the optional hot-swap box will fix this, but there is no information what is included as the interface on the Intel adapter or 6-drive bay. It's possible that will change nothing so I had to buy AT Y-cables and AT>SATA patch cords.
There is no external port for the internal RS232/DB9 included cable. The case has a DB25 punchout, not a DB9. Sure, I can stick it out an expansion slot, but it should have had a 25 cent expansion slot plate. This is I can steal from another computer.
Did anyone at Intel actually assemble one of these before release? No way they got a SATA power connector in there, nor did they get the DB9 to mount up. These are what is referred to as mis-matched components.
Double DOH!! My apologies.
I now see what you mean by the SATA power being routed though the front bottom of the factory bay. Sorry!
And I guess it's time to see the eye doctor. Yes, there is a DB9 punchout that I missed so I can stop hunting for the adapter.
Still, 2 SATA power connectors is a bit skimpy for a case with 9 bays. The other LGA 1366 (i7-950) machine I just built also has a 1000w PS, and it has 8+ SATA power connectors. This Xeon machine is getting 4 SATA devices, 2x DVD + 2 HDD's. This is certainly not a "max" build, and is pretty much how most my machines are.
And yes, I'll admit I didn't read all 100+ pages of the docs before starting. I'd have to turn in my Man Card if read directions first. :-D
It's been a rough week. Thanks again, I think I have everything I need. Cross my fingers for first boot.