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      • 45. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
        dCrypt

        Well, after carrying out some tests, I can confirm that v0509 BIOS fixes the Linux USB boot problem.... partially.

         

        I can boot Linux from USB if I plug my pendrive into the rear USB ports, but it doesn't work at all with front panel USBs. I have tried two pinheaders, #5 and #6 as shown here: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18357/eng/D510MO_QuickRef02.pdf . Attached to the front panel USBs, I can't boot to Linux in a USB pendrive, I can't boot to a USB DVD reader, etc.

         

        The side effect is that, as USB signals present in the miniPCIe connector are tied to front panel, my SDHC->miniPCIe adapter does not boot to USB Linux neither.

         

        As the pinheader #6 does not work, it should mean that a specific device designed to be booted to USB (Z-U130) does not work with this board at all. I was going to buy one for my system, thanks god I didn't waste my money!!!

         

        Intel, we need another BIOS upgrade, or an explanation about why we can't boot using the front panel USBs.

        • 46. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

          Thanks for confirming this.

           

          I was planning to use the internal header with flash  drive support (I assumed that header had the best chance of working due  to it's description) but using a rear port is acceptable aswell in my  case. I'm sorry to hear that it still wont help solve your problem and I  agree it's quite bad that the port marketed as USB flash drive ready  actually doesn't work as such, while the back ports does (finally).

           

          I should point out that the D525MW  board still doesn't have a BIOS update that solves the boot problems  (not this partial solution either). Support said they were hoping the  D510MO solution could be adapted to the D525MW board but they didn't promise  anything and couldn't give me an estimated release date. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens...

          • 47. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

            Hi,

             

            Seeing the new BIOS I did some tests, and it looks good.

             

            I have 2 USB drives and 2 disk images:

             

            USB1: 1GB Kingston Data Traveler II

            USB8: integral courier hi-speed USB 2.0

             

            IMG14: Fedora-14-i686-Live-Desktop.iso which can be copied with dd directly to the USB stick.

            IMG55: CentOS 5.5 diskboot.img file which can also be dd'd directly to the USB stick.

             

            All USB/IMG combinations boot without problem in a Dell desktop PC and as I had to change the images between reflashing BIOSes (I upgraded the BIOS using USB1), I rechecked them on the desktop PC each time.  All boot attempts were on the same USB port (one of the front panel ones) which I think should be okay since at least one configuration can boot from it under the old BIOS.

             

            Onto the D510MO results:

             

            BIOSUSB1+IMG14
            USB1+IMG55
            USB8+IMG14
            USB8+IMG55
            0501Boots fine.

            BIOS recognises device and it is listed in the boot menu.

            Boot starts, but grub fails to find the linux image so stops at prompt.
            Not listed in BIOS boot menu.Not listed in BIOS boot menu.
            0506Boots fine.Same as 0501Same as 0501Same as 0501
            0509Boots fine!Boots fine!Boots fine!Boots fine!

             

            Well done Intel!  It looks like 0509 has properly fixed USB boot, at least for all the configurations I have.

             

            One minor regression is that the Ethernet device now appears as "Legacy PCI device" in the boot menu, but that's fine as USB booting is much more convenient than PXE boot for installing OSes!

             

            Regards,

             

            Mike

            • 48. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
              dCrypt

              Dear Michael,

               

              As my tests results and yours differs, I am wondering there are some additional test to do. Your post suggests that the boot problems depend on the device used. So, I will appreciate that you provide some additional information:

               

              - What does USB1 and USB8 mean? Why 1 and 8?

              - What IMG14 and IMG55 mean? Why 14 and 55?

              - In which pin header number do you have your front panel USB? (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18357/eng/D510MO_QuickRef02.pdf)

              - Which is the capacity of the Integral Courier USB?

              - Did you try to install the OS in the other pendrive and boot into it after the installation?

               

              I will review your images, because my guess is that the partition created from the image with DD is not a linux one, which is the starting point in my original post.

               

              Kind regards

              • 49. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

                I have the D510MO board a long time with BIOS version 0311 (MOPNV10J.86A), and it works properly till today. The board boots to my old flash drive with the original BIOS, but I tried my new one flash drive without success. So I updated BIOS to the last one. BIOS to version -> 0400 -> 0509. But it was the worst thing, what I am done. It is possible go to the BIOS, but the board doesn't boot from flash drive, it only says Error 21 (with flash drive inserted). This error has been displayed while BIOS go to the media for MBR ?

                 

                My first flash drive has only one Ext4 partition, the second one (new one) has more partition with more instalation images of Linux. These flash drives are working properly with all my other computers (with exception D510MO ). The flash drives are sometimes recognized differently with BIOSes as Flash drive, Removable disks, USB disk, disk. Maybe different chip = different BIOS handling.

                 

                Some information about my ex NAS server:

                The SATA ports are connected to my "software" RAID array, so it not possible to boot from them. I need minimaly two USB 2.0 ports work's properly.

                One for instalation USB disk, and second for the OS.

                2x1TB HDD, 2x 1GB RAM, no DVD.

                 

                Intel should correct the BIOS quickly. I have unusable Intel board. The problem is not Windows or Linux, but the Intel BIOS.

                 

                Thanks Petr

                • 50. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

                  Hi dCrypt,

                   

                  - What does USB1 and USB8 mean? Why 1 and 8?

                  - What IMG14 and IMG55 mean? Why 14 and 55?

                   

                  It's at the top of my post.  USB1 is the 1GB Data traveller, USB8 the 8GB Integral Courier.  IMG14 is a Fedora 14 liveCD, IMG55 a CentOS diskboot.img image.

                   

                  - In which pin header number do you have your front panel USB? (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18357/eng/D510MO_QuickRef02.pdf)

                   

                  Number 5.  The one closest to the audio header and with 2 USBs.

                   

                  - Which is the capacity of the Integral Courier USB?

                   

                  8GB

                   

                  - Did you try to install the OS in the other pendrive and boot into it after the installation?

                   

                  I'm not sure what you mean?  I didn't install anything here - just boot to the installer or desktop of the live CD.  I tried both images on both USB sticks.

                   

                  Regards,

                   

                  Mike

                  • 51. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

                    Hi Petr,

                     

                    At the risk of going off topic, it sounds like we have a similar setup.  I have a software RAID1 with 2x 500GB drives on my board.  I'm using CentOS 5 and can boot from them fine though (I can boot from either one in fact).

                     

                    I only needed USB boot to get a system setup, and for me, with 0509 that's working fine.

                     

                    Maybe I got luck with the USB devices I chose, but the 2 I've tested work fine.

                     

                    Regards,

                     

                    Mike

                    • 52. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
                      dCrypt

                      Hi Michael,

                       

                      Thank you for the information. I will do some tests during the weekend and then I will keep you posted. The first thing that comes to my mind is that I already did similar tests as yours with BIOS v0501, using unetbootin/usbcreator/etc instead of dd the ISOs over the pendrive. My guess is that you are booting to a partition which is not Ext2/Ext3/Ext4. Could you check it for me, please?

                       

                      I'm not sure what you mean?  I didn't install anything here - just  boot to the installer or desktop of the live CD.  I tried both images on  both USB sticks.

                       

                      That's what I was precisely asking for: whether you have already installed the OS from the "installation pendrive" to the second one over an Ext4 partition or you just used USB to boot to the CD image. Early during my tests, just after the BIOS upgrade, I noticed that I could boot a Hiren's Boot CD USB pendrive created following these instructions:

                       

                      http://www.hirensbootcd.org/usb-booting/

                       

                      ...and fixing it using syslinux as stated in the 4th question in the FAQ:

                       

                      http://www.hirensbootcd.org/faq/

                       

                      I have always been able to boot to the Ubunut CD/DVD installed in a pendrive using unetbootin. But after installing it into a USB pendrive in an Ext4 partition, then the problems started.

                       

                       

                      Kind regards.

                      • 53. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

                        Hi Mike,

                           the problem should be that BIOS can't read the MBR, I am using Grub for both USB flash drives.

                         

                        My first USB flash drive is:   ID 13fe:3100 Kingston Technology Company Inc.

                         

                        The flash is divided to these paritions:

                        /dev/sdb1     *         2        8193     8388608   83  Linux            ...............    (Primary partitation, marked as bootable, type Ext4)

                        /dev/sdb2            8194       15272     7248896    5  Rozšířený  ...............    (Extended partition)
                        /dev/sdb5            8195       15272     7247872    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA) ......... (Logical on extended partition, Windows Fat32)

                         

                        My second USB flash drive:

                        ID 090c:1000 Feiya Technology Corp. Flash Drive

                        /dev/sdb1   *           2        4238     3914752   83  Linux   ............ (Primary partition, market as bootable, type Ext4)

                         

                        After start:

                        1) BIOS shows welcome screen

                        2) Screen is cleared to black

                        3) Message "Error 21" is showed on screen and cursor is blinking on next row.

                         

                        Could someone point me where is the problem ? What is the Error 21 ?

                        Now I have BIOS version 0509. I used BIOS version 0311 before, and the second flash work's (boots to OS with Grub).

                         

                        Thanks Petr

                        • 54. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
                          dCrypt

                          You guess what? A new BIOS version, v0512:

                           

                           

                          http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3196&DwnldID=19846&ProductFamily=Desktop+Boards&ProductLine=Intel%C2%AE+NM10+Chipset+Family+Boards&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Desktop+Board+D510MO&lang=eng

                           

                          I expected to have the front panel USB BOOT fixed, as I requested via my support ticket, but the release notes don't say a word about that.

                           

                          Let's try again and risk our systems to suffer from a new problem.

                           

                          I'll keep you posted, as usual.

                          • 55. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
                            jonhd

                            I'll miss out on that one, I think - I'm looking for the magic words "SATA" and "CompactFlash"... (Still booting Xubuntu 10.04 OK from Lexar 8GB USB stick, on rear panel USB port...Been through plenty plenty of reboots, so seems stable.)  To reiterate, I did test v0509 with my SATA > CF adaptor, and it definitely couldn't be persuaded to boot (with Xubuntu 10.04). Shame.

                            • 56. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
                              dCrypt

                              Speaking about your prolem, johnd, did you try using both IDE and AHCI?

                              • 57. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
                                dCrypt

                                The front panel USB BOOT is not fixed in this release. Anyone else noticed that this could be the Intel MB with most BIOS updates in history? How many bugs should still be fixed?

                                 

                                During the weekend I will try different pendrives, because I can't even BOOT into my Hiren's Boot CD pendrive.

                                • 58. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501

                                  until now i have used the d510 with version 0311 but after some problems with usb recognitions i tried to update to the latest bios version 0311 > 0400 > 0516

                                   

                                  now i have lost my nexenta storage because grub hangs at "grub loading stage 2..."

                                   

                                  exactly the same as http://communities.intel.com/thread/17645, reported 5!!! month ago

                                   

                                  no way to go back to version 0311, the only thing i can do is to wait until intel is able to provide a bios which solves this issues

                                   

                                  and in the meantime i have no access to my 4tb!! of data!!!!!!!!!

                                   

                                  THANKS INTEL

                                  • 59. Re: D510MO and USB boot problems after upgrading to BIOS v0400 + v0501
                                    dCrypt

                                    It seems that the BIOS version v0516 will be the last one for the D510MO. I have no fact of that, but my impression is that Intel doesn't care about solving the problems related to USB and Linux boot.