11 Replies Latest reply on Jan 11, 2018 2:39 PM by N.Scott.Pearson

    i7-4650u working???

    viv567

      I purchased the processor. He does not have 3 components.

      The seller assures that this processor is working.

      In my opinion, the processor is defective.

      What is the probability that the processor is working?

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        • 1. Re: i7-4650u working???
          Al Hill

          It may work, it may work sometimes, it may not work at all.

           

          Return it, and purchase another from a reliable retailer.

           

          Doc

          • 2. Re: i7-4650u working???
            viv567

            > It may work, it may work sometimes, it may not work at all

             

            I would like to know if the absence of these three components is critical for work.

            The seller states that the processor is a worker

            • 3. Re: i7-4650u working???
              Al Hill

              Was the processor new in the box, or something the seller claims is new?

               

              Seriously, if you have doubts, return it, go to a trusted retailer, get a new processor in the box, and be happy.

               

              Or, take your chances with what you have.

               

              Doc

              • 4. Re: i7-4650u working???
                viv567

                Naturally the processor is not new.

                Naturally the seller does not want to take it back and assures that the processor is working.

                That's why I'm here. To be told for sure the work processor or dead.

                There is my opinion against the seller's opinion. Need expert opinion.

                • 5. Re: i7-4650u working???
                  Al Hill

                  The processor does not have all of its capacitors, therefore it is not complete.

                   

                  There is no way you can be told that it is fully functional.

                   

                  Now, if you want to test the processor, and take that as an answer, you can try Download Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool

                   

                  Doc

                  • 6. Re: i7-4650u working???
                    viv567

                    Without 3 components, the processor will be able to work? If so, how?

                    Or he basically will not be launched?

                    The question is how do the missing components affect the work in the processor?

                    Or they do not perform any function and stand because they cost? For example, like a beautiful wrapper or a sticker on the processor.

                     

                    > you can try Download Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool

                    For this you need to implement bga-soldering. In order to do bga-soldering you need to know the working processor or not

                    • 7. Re: i7-4650u working???
                      Al Hill

                      Install it, boot it, test it, and then you will know.

                       

                      You purchased the processor under the assurances from the seller that it worked.

                       

                      It is a used processor, with missing components, and you want to be told it is functional.

                       

                      Just test it and you can then make your own decision.

                       

                      Doc

                      • 8. Re: i7-4650u working???
                        viv567

                        > Just test it and you can then make your own decision

                        For this you need to implement bga-soldering. In order to do bga-soldering you need to know the working processor or not

                        • 9. Re: i7-4650u working???
                          Al Hill

                          Sorry, you have been given the answer.

                           

                          And, to further complicate things, are you saying that this processor was UNSOLDERED/REMOVED from another board by someone, and the seller is trying to tell you it is OK?

                           

                          Doc

                          • 10. Re: i7-4650u working???
                            viv567

                            The processor was in use. As far as I know, new i7-4650u processors are not manufactured.

                            I claimed the seller that there are no 3 components.

                            The seller refuses to accept claims, arguing that the processor is working,

                            and the missing components do not affect the processor

                             

                            Link to the product: i7 4650U SR16H Intel BGA 植球测试 笔记本一体机工控CPU包测试-淘宝网

                            • 11. Re: i7-4650u working???
                              N.Scott.Pearson

                              First of all, are you sure that these components are truly missing? That is, have you verified that the processors, as shipped in trays from Intel, included these components? If not, you should do this before anything else

                               

                              If you are sure, then if this processor was desoldered from a board and the components are missing, I would be blaming the desoldering process for these components being missing - and, even it is was working before it was desoldered, it likely isn't going to work now. If you attempt to install it and it doesn't work, the seller will then be able to claim that your soldering process damaged it. My guidance would be to immediately stop and return it.

                               

                              Just saying,

                              ...S