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    ISM and RTS question

    joconnor3881

      OK, got a question that I am having a really hard time finding.

       

      I do get a lot of returns on RTS and TRIM, but nothing on this question.

       

      So for a while I have been really used to IMS (Intel Matrix Storage). Now that RTS has downloads out for what is replacing IMS my question is this.

       

      Do I uninstall IMS Reboot

      and

      Install RTS = Thats it?

       

      Also the latest version I have is

      9.5.7.1002 ..........Anything newer?

       

      I wouldnt keep both since they both do the same thing right?

       

      Specs

      Rampage II Extreme (Intel Chipset)

      2 Intell SSD's G2 80GB

      2 HDD RAID 0

       

      Thanks for all the expert help!

      John

        • 1. Re: ISM and RTS question
          Fernando

          joconnor3881 schrieb:

           

          Do I uninstall IMS Reboot

          and

          Install RTS = Thats it?

           

          Also the latest version I have is

          9.5.7.1002 ..........Anything newer?

           

          I wouldnt keep both since they both do the same thing right?

          Here are my answers:

          1. You can install the IRST package without any problems. The IMSM software will be uninstalled automaticly.

          2. The latest IRST version is 9.5.7.1002.

          3. It is impossibe to run both IRST and IMSM simultaneously, because I are doing the same job (but another way).

          • 2. Re: ISM and RTS question
            joconnor3881

            Thanks Fernando!

             

            Just did it the old fashion way I guess:)

             

            Uninstalled IMS

            Installed IRST

             

            So last question...if its new by Intel why is it so hard to find the software? Is it not fully released yet?

             

            John

            • 3. Re: ISM and RTS question
              Fernando

              joconnor3881 schrieb:

               

              if its new by Intel why is it so hard to find the software? Is it not fully released yet?

              Intel hasn't yet published the Rapid Storage Technology drivers and software v9.5.7.1002, but you can get the complete package inclusive the RST software at Station-Drivers.

              • 4. Re: ISM and RTS question
                tosh9i

                Sorry for butting in, but I have an Intel X-25V with bios and OS set as AHCI, and Trim is enabled, so should I install this RST 9.5.7.1002

                http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

                • 5. Re: ISM and RTS question
                  joconnor3881

                  Tosh9i.....I noticed a diff:)

                  • 6. Re: ISM and RTS question
                    tosh9i

                    But you have yours set up as RAID which doesn't support Trim.  Mine is a single SSD with ACHI, which does support Trim.

                     

                    And I'm curious as to whether or not this new version supports Trim and if I should install it.

                     

                    Sorry, all this SSD, TRIM, ACHI, is new to me.  Up until a couple days ago, I had no idea what they stood for.

                     

                    Update: Well, by upgrading the RST driver, I managed to increase the WEI of the hard drive (SSD) from 5.9 to 7.7. Now my WEI score is 7.4.

                    • 7. Re: ISM and RTS question
                      Fernando

                      tosh9i schrieb:

                       

                      And I'm curious as to whether or not this new version supports Trim and if I should install it.

                      None of the currently available Intel AHCI drivers do natively support the Trim command.

                      Nevertheless it is a good idea to install them, because

                      a) they are optimized for being used with Intel SSD's and

                      b) the use of the Optimizer (=part of Intel's SSD Toolbox) has the same or maybe even a better effect than the automatic Trim command support by the generic MS IDE/AHCI drivers.

                       

                      Regards

                      Fernando

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                      • 8. Re: ISM and RTS question
                        joconnor3881

                        @Fernando...

                         

                        Since I have seen your name around these boards a lot maybe you can give me an update as well to the current status.

                         

                        THINGS I UNDERSTAND

                        TRIM= Automatic on AHCI

                        TRIM= Manaul if you use RAID using toolbox

                        TRIM= Doesnt work if you run RAID0, either auto or using toolbox

                         

                        Since I have my bios set to RAID and have the following setup

                         

                        2 Intel X25 80GB G2 (newest Firmware) RAID0

                        2 WDBE RAID0

                         

                        My performance seems great! Just like some things I should watch out for, and any idea when the new RTS will support RAID.

                         

                        Last but not least windows reconized my ssd's but still writes to my prefetch folder. Everything else is turned off by windows. Is this because I still have 2 HDD's installed??

                         

                        Thanks

                        John

                        • 9. Re: ISM and RTS question
                          Fernando

                          @ joconnor3881:

                           

                          Here ae some details regarding TRIM:

                          • TRIM will only be automaticly supported, if you are running Win7 and using the generic MS IDE/AHCI or future Intel RST AHCI drivers v9.6.x.xxxx.
                          • Manual TRIMming using the Optimizer of Intel's Toolbox is no problem as long as your SSD's are not running in RAID mode.
                          • TRIM is not supported at all, if your SSD's are connected with SATA ports running in RAID mode. If you want to clean the SSD, you have to use a tool like HDDErase (only usable after having broken the RAID).

                          It is possible, that Win7 is still using the Prefetch option, because your SSD's are within a RAID array. If you don't want it, you can disable the Prefetch option manually.

                           

                          Regards

                          Fernando

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                          • 10. Re: ISM and RTS question
                            Ozz

                            Hi Fernando,

                             

                            Out of interest, where did you see mention of TRIM with (future) 9.6.x RST?

                             

                            Cheers.

                            • 11. Re: ISM and RTS question
                              Fernando

                              Ozz schrieb:

                               

                              Out of interest, where did you see mention of TRIM with (future) 9.6.x RST?

                              Look into the first post of this thread: http://communities.intel.com/message/86930#86930

                               

                              Regards

                              Fernando

                              • 12. Re: ISM and RTS question
                                Ozz

                                Thanks

                                • 13. Re: ISM and RTS question
                                  ambizytl

                                  I use that old standard msahci driver and get WEI score of 7.7, a score that has been consistent, never got below that since TRIM firmware installed.

                                  • 14. Re: ISM and RTS question
                                    ambizytl

                                    "b) the use of the Optimizer (=part of Intel's SSD Toolbox) has the same  or maybe even a better effect than the automatic Trim command support by  the generic MS IDE/AHCI drivers."

                                     

                                    Now, Fernando, how is it possible for running TRIM via Optimizer better than automatic TRIM??? If anything, I see TRIM running automatically as the best way to go.

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