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    Doom @ Vulkan

    Loeschzwerg

      Hi everyone,

       

      since the latest v4474/v4475 drivers it's possible to play Doom (2016) on OpenGL using Intel HD / Iris Graphics. Big THX to the driver team!!!

       

      Today ID Software released a patch to add Vulkan support for Doom

       

      But here is the problem:

      The latest Intel Vulkan Beta drivers are v4473... and with those Doom refuses to start (The known problem before v4474/4475).

       

      May I request a new Beta driver? I want to see how Doom performs when using the Vulkan API.

       

      Thanks an kind regards,

      Loeschzwerg

        • 1. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
          Intel Corporation
          This message was posted on behalf of Intel Corporation

          Hello Loeschzwerg:
           
          In order to further assist you and for us to be able to look if there is a beta driver available, we just need to verify a few details:
           
          Please provide the model of the processor.
           
          Please provide the model of the motherboard.
           
          If you are using a laptop please provide the model of the laptop.
           
          Any questions, please let me know.
           
          Alberto
           

          • 2. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
            Loeschzwerg

            Hi Alberto

             

            NUC6i7KYK Win 10 Pro 64 Bit with latest updates installed.

             

            I configured Doom to start with Vulkan API, but the game crashes with the v4473 Vulkan Beta driver directly after starting.

            • 3. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
              Intel Corporation
              This message was posted on behalf of Intel Corporation

              Hello Loeschzwerg:
               
              Thank you very much for providing those details
               
              On the following link you will find the latest driver version for Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580, which is the graphics version of the i7-6770HQ inside your Intel® NUC6i7KYK NUC, it is version 4474:
               
              https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26099/Intel-Beta-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10-and-Windows-7-8-1-15-40-
               
              Please let me know the results of trying that driver.
               
              Any questions, please let me know.
               
              Alberto
               

              • 4. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                VisorZ

                Hi Löschzwerg,

                 

                seems there is no shortcut to the newest beta driver and we have to wait until the official Vulkan driver release for Win64.

                I also want to run DOOM on Vulkan. I changed ingame API to Vulkan, Doom crashed on restart. Click on View Crash Report and you will see Doom was called with launch option -render_api -2.

                All Intel driver with Vulkan support I know can't run Doom in OGL, so I changed Doom's launch options in Steam to render api 2, as in crash protocol. Got immediate crashes on launch, so that switch worked. Now I tried every driver with VK support: 15.4404 and 15.4464. To see the driver's VK version I checked with Geeks3D Capsviewer 1.30 after restart.

                It said VK 1.0.8(!) and 1.0.0 for the later one and both drivers could draw a spinning VK cube I had found in VK Sdk but none could launch the internal Gpu Caps VK demos like a simple triangle or the ocean sample. And none would allow Doom to load. Both generated an exception in Vulkan DLL. Which means VK was found but versions are too different or VK support on Intel side is not complete yet. The Intel drivers are really only meant for VK developers right now. AMD already ships VK 1.0.17. Oh, and to enable VK you additionally need to install Vulkan Runtime, like DirectX runtime back in the days. You will find a VulkanRT setup in Intel driver setup graphics folder to do that.

                Version 15.4474 doesn't even come with VK driver in it and it uninstalls all VK support and files from an older beta driver. So I did not find a way to start Doom with VK. Though I am confident in some weeks this will be possible. Thank you Intel for your drivers!

                • 5. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                  VisorZ

                  Hey, I am so surprised because I found an article stating, that Doom was tested in OpenGL and Vulkan on Intel GT 520: Doom: Vulkan macht die Hölle schneller - Golem.de . I already wrote the author and asked which driver they used. I hope he will answer tomorrow and update the article. If not I will add a note here.

                  • 6. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                    Intel Corporation
                    This message was posted on behalf of Intel Corporation

                    Hello:

                    Thank you very much for the information provided VisorZ.

                    To Loeschzwerg, I hope the information above was helpful for you.

                    Let me apologize because I misunderstood the information you were looking for, and I gave you the wrong driver.

                     

                    To be able to play Doom using the Vulkan API, this is the driver that might work:

                     

                    -NEW- Intel® Graphics Test Driver for Windows® 10 and Windows 7*/8.1* [15.40.4473] | Intel® Software

                     

                    Please try that one and let me know the results.


                    Any questions, please let me know.

                    Alberto

                    • 7. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                      Yups

                      You still don't get it. Could you read properly before posting?

                       

                       

                      "The latest Intel Vulkan Beta drivers are v4473... and with those Doom refuses to start"

                       

                       

                      So your link is a waste.

                       

                       

                      This message was posted by Intel Corporation on behalf of

                       

                       

                      Is there someone from Intel that is able to read and understand the problem?

                      • 8. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                        Loeschzwerg

                        VisorZ: Thanks for your Input, that's what I did too, starting Doom  with "render_api -2" I tried the Vulkan drivers v4404 and v4473 Driver, both Crash.

                         

                        The author from Golem (Marc) used the v4473 Driver and luckily it worked for him. He's investigating the case too.

                         

                        @Alberto: Sorry, the driver doesn't allow me to run Doom @ Vulkan. I tried it on my NUC6i5SYK and NUC6i7KYK.

                        • 9. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                          Yups

                          Doesn't work with 4473 on my HD 530. I have to run 4474 or 4475 but there is no Vulkan support in these drivers. Intel has to fix their Vulkan driver.

                          • 10. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                            VisorZ

                            Hi, thanks for testing. I tried to add Vulkan support on top of 4474 but that is not possible. And copying driver files into system directories is only fun at the beginning but not when trying to undo the mess. So I stopped and wait for team Intel to reach Vulkan Gold status on Win10.64.

                            • 11. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                              Intel Corporation
                              This message was posted on behalf of Intel Corporation

                              Hello Loeschzwerg:
                               
                              Thank you very much for that information VisorZ, it is very useful in this case.  
                               
                              I just wanted to let you know that according to our information, the driver v4473 was the one that fixes this problem with Doom not starting, that is why I gave you that driver again, just to make sure you were trying the right one.
                               
                              I looked for the driver version 4475, but that one is not available in our web site, the latest version is 4474 that you already tried as well.
                               
                              Please try the following driver, it is version 4463, that was the one before driver version 4473, that according to our information might fix this problem:
                               
                              https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26078/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10-and-Windows-7-8-1-15-40-?product=80939
                               
                              Please let me know the results of trying that one.
                               
                              Any questions, please let me know.
                               
                              Alberto
                               

                              • 12. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                                Loeschzwerg

                                To sum up all the driver information:

                                 

                                20.19.15.4463 => OpenGL @ Doom crashes; no Vulkan Support

                                20.19.15.4473 => OpenGL @ Doom crashes; Vulkan is supported but Doom crashes on startup ("render_api -2")

                                20.19.15.4474 => OpenGL @ Doom works; no Vulkan Support

                                21.20.16.4475 => OpenGL @ Doom works; no Vulkan Support

                                • 13. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                                  igpu

                                  Hi,

                                  I have same Problem to run Doom 4 on Intel HD Graphics 530.

                                  I tested all Intel Driver with Vulkan Support. but no Chance to start it.

                                   

                                  This Guys from Golem.de can start Doom with Intel GPU ? ask him if he can create a Screenshot with GPU Info on Display !!

                                  I dont think anyone can start Doom 4 with Vulkan Api on Intel GPU

                                   

                                  Alberto@

                                  that is not Hardware Problem ! Intel Driver not work with doom and Vulkan Api. The Driver Team must optimize a new Driver for doom.

                                  I can start Doom 4 with my Nvidia GTX970 without Problem.  But if i disable my nvidia Card, doom not run with Vulkan on Intel GPU.

                                   

                                  I have i7-6700k CPU and 16GB Ram - Windows 7 x64 Ultimate.

                                  If you need more Info about my System, please read my another Doom thread in this forum.

                                   

                                  greetz

                                  • 14. Re: Doom @ Vulkan
                                    Intel Corporation
                                    This message was posted on behalf of Intel Corporation

                                    Hello Loeschzwerg:
                                     
                                    Based on the fact that none of the driver that are available worked for this scenario, what we are going to do now is to replicate the case, for that we just  need some information about your system configuration.
                                     
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                                    Please install the SSU tool (System Support Utility).
                                     
                                    You will be able to download it on the following link:
                                     
                                    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25293/Intel-System-Support-Utility
                                     
                                    Once you do that, the tool will allow you to save the information as a file, so, once you save it, please attach it to this thread.
                                     
                                    And finally, we need a report from the Intel® HD Graphics control panel, once you open that, choose "options and support", then choose "information center", and then choose where it says "file" at the bottom, you will get a text file, please attach it to the thread.
                                     
                                    Let me apologize for all this inconvenience, we know that this is most likely a driver issue, but in order for us to do some research and investigations we need all the above information, sorry to bother you again but this will be very helpful for us to further assist you.
                                     
                                    Any questions, please let me know.
                                     
                                    Alberto
                                     

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