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Are any chips available with fix for hsw136?

PJoot
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In 2014 a bug was found in the Haswell TSX implementation, documented here:

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/xeon/xeon-e3-1200v3-spec-update.html Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1200 v3 Family: Specification Update

(HSW136).

Are there any intel chips currently on the market that have a fix for this issue? How would such a chip be identified on the command line on Linux (RHEL7).

Prior to the errata publication for this issue, I believe we could look for RTM programmatically with code like:

# if defined USE_LIBCPUID

# include

# endif

# include

constexpr int RTM_BITMASK (1 << 11) ;</span>

int main()

{

# if defined USE_LIBCPUID

struct cpu_raw_data_t raw ;

if ( cpuid_get_raw_data( &raw ) >= 0 )

{

printf( "%08X\n", raw.basic_cpuid[7][1] & RTM_BITMASK ) ;

}

# endif

int r[4] { 7, 0, 0, 0 } ;

__asm__( "cpuid"

: "+a"( r[0] ),

"=b"( r[1] ),

"+c"( r[2] ),

"=d"( r[3] ) ) ;

printf( "%08X\n", r[1] & RTM_BITMASK ) ;

return 0 ;

}

 

Given that this will also be true for chips that have the bug but do not have the microcode update that disables it (nor a bios update for the same), how would one check that the TSX feature is both available and bug free?

 

 

 

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idata
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Hello, peeterjoot:

Let me review this information, I will keep you posted.

Regards,

Amy.

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PJoot
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Amy, any update on this? Can you see my response to YseGuy where I provide further info about a system I am using that ought to have TSX capability, but does not appear to. Why does this feature not show up in CPUID (or linux's /proc/cpuinfo), and how can it be enabled?

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FHeik
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If your CPU has this bug, and if it can be fixed by a microcode update, you can load the respective microcode file (available https://downloadcenter.intel.com/de/download/24661/Linux-Prozessor-Mikrocode-Datendatei here) at boot time provided you've the respective feature compiled into your kernel.

If it can't be fixed by a microcode update, your only other option is a BIOS update that has to be provided by your board's manufacturer.

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PJoot
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I have a fairly recent Intel NUC6i5SYH machine with cpu type:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6260U CPU @ 1.80GHz

 

 

From what I gather this cpu is 6th generation (skylake), and shouldn't have this issue, since only haswell (4th) and some broadwell (5th) generation cpus had the TSX bug. Despite that /proc/cpuinfo shows no rtm nor no hle flags:

 

flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch epb intel_pt tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid mpx rdseed adx smap clflushopt xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp

 

This is also confirmed running cpuid ( http://www.etallen.com/cpuid/cpuid-20151017.src.tar.gz http://www.etallen.com/cpuid/cpuid-20151017.src.tar.gz ) which shows:

 

 

cpuid-20151017> ./cpuid | grep -ie rtm -e hle

HLE hardware lock elision = false

RTM: restricted transactional memory = false

HLE hardware lock elision = false

RTM: restricted transactional memory = false

HLE hardware lock elision = false

RTM: restricted transactional memory = false

HLE hardware lock elision = false

RTM: restricted transactional memory = false

 

 

The (Intel Visual) BIOS has no options that I can find to disable TSX (or re-enable it if disabled).

 

 

 

 

 

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idata
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peeterjoot, I am still reviewing this, I will let you know as soon as possible.

Regards,

Amy.

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PJoot
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Hi Amy, it's been about a week. Any update?

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idata
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/thread/101771 peeterjoot, I am going to request an update for this.

I apologize for the delay.

Regards,

Amy.

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PJoot
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Hi Amy,

If it makes it any easier, you can ignore my original question, and just answer the question from my "May 11, 2016 10:06 AM" post. Why is it that I don't appear to have RTM/HLE available on a Intel NUC6i5SYH system that is running a hardware version (skylake) that is supposed to have the fix for the original Haswell issue. Can TSX be enabled on such a system? How?

 

 

Peeter
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idata
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/thread/101771 peeterjoot, I apologize for the delay. I am pushing in order to get this information for you, as soon as I have an answer I will respond to all your questions.

Thank you for your patience.

Regards,

Amy.

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Ronny_G_Intel
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Hi,

I am probably confused and may need that you help me understand your question.

Intel® TXT is part of Intel® vPro™ Technologies and if no vPro then no TXT. The NUC6i5SYH is not Vpro enabled. See for example NUC5i5MYBE TPS: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/boardsandkits/NUC5i5MYBE_TechProdSpec06.pdf http://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/boardsandkits/NUC5i5MYBE_TechProdSpec06.pdf page # 14

Let me know if this helps,

Ronny G

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PJoot
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Hi Ronny,

Assuming that you mean TSX when you write TXT, this seems to answer the question. After seeing the processor spec sheet in the URL you mentioned, I looked up the same for the CPU in my NUC:

http://ark.intel.com/products/91160/Intel-Core-i5-6260U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz http://ark.intel.com/products/91160/Intel-Core-i5-6260U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz

and see, sure enough, that TSX is not enabled.

Is this feature always going to be tied to the vPro line of CPUs for future chips? I didn't read of any such restriction in the Haswell release when it was first introduced (at least until the bug was found).

 

Peeter
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idata
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Is this feature always going to be tied to the vPro line of CPUs for future chips?

Yes, it will always be tied to Intel® vPro™ Technology.

Regards,

Amy.

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