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  • 75. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    nogi Community Member
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    I did the update last night. My settings:

    • Intel i7-950
    • Gigabyte EX58-UD5 motherboard (F9E BIOS)
    • Windows x64 Ultimate
    • G2 on Primary Sata port 0 in IDE mode

     

    I'll know tonight if any issues pop up but I have TRIM disabled in Windows 7. Perhaps that is the reason my drive may still be ok?

  • 76. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    BruceH Community Member
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    Worked fine for me on Win7x64, Dell D620 laptop.  Win7 did re-install the drive at first boot after firmware update.  The disk drive drivers are unchanged (disk.sys and partmgr.sys, versions as originally installed with Win7 RC).  The 82801 GBM/GHM (ICH-7 family) southbridge SATA controller drivers also appear to be the versions associated with the Win7 RC build.  Ditto the ATA channel drivers, ataport.sys and atapi.sys.  Ditto the PCI Express rootport driver, pci.sys.  However, I notice that the SSD was assigned a new hardware ID at the firmware update.  So, I conclude that SSD re-install at first boot following the update simply re-installed the original drivers (i.e., no driver change).

     

    I am not suggesting that this was the case for other platforms, just reporting what I see in device manager following the update in my particular case.  Based upon this, however, I would suggest that those with failing drives might check the associated device drivers to make sure that the original drivers were used for the re-install of the SSD at the re-boot following the update.  Those drivers should indicate the Windows 7 build (e.g., "7100" and "RC" in my case) in the driver name, for Microsoft-supplied drivers.

     

    Other than that, I have no clue about the failures.

     

    Best,

    Bruce

  • 77. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    cashman Community Member
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    Exactly the same scenario here - SMART  -> Host Writes : 1,75 TB !!!

     

    My System :

    Mainboard : Asus P5K deluxe 4GB Ram

    Windows 7 Ultimate 32

    AHCI Mode

  • 78. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    EasterEEL Community Member
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    If this is of any help, I flashed 26/10/09 after reading the Anandtech article.

     

    Win 7 64-bit Pro

    Asus P5Q Pro with Q6600 O/C to 3GHz - 2102 bios

    4Gb RAM

    1 80GB SSD as main boot

    1 640GB SATA drive

    Running AHCI - both during flash and after.

     

    Flash install was fine, rebooted and new drivers installed message.

    Reboot fine and subsequently have rebooted several times including fully switching the system off.

     

    Still to do - create new ghost image and re-image back.

     

    One question - as I had already installed Win 7 Pro before updating drive firmware to enable trim, will trim just start working?  i.e what about the data already on the drive which had been created/deleted before the new firmware?

  • 79. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    tasskap Community Member
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    Hi,

         i also tried to update the firmware without having read all these posts.  I followed exactly the instructions that Intel wrote and the update was succesful.

          I rebooted and the laptop entered the OS with no problem. I then saw the message at the bottom right corner stating that IntelSSD160GB was found. A message for a restart for the changes to take effect popped up and i restarted. Bios booted and nothing... Tried to repair Windows via booting from DVD still nothing. Tried to install still nothing.

          I removed the drive and put it in an extenal case and went to the desktop. Guess what the partition was RAW!!! Deleted the partitions and reinstalled windows and that seedmed to do the trick. After an hour or two a message came up and said that my drive was about to fail and S.M.A.R.T. reported it bad!!!!

          I think it's a shame to pay so much for a product and have it broken by the Manufacturer!!!! I removed the drive before it completely fails and now i'm waiting for a new firmware solution to walk around the problem before i initiate the procedure to send it back....

  • 80. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    igotssd Community Member
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    My 80GB G2 SSDs also went bad, after a few restarts.

     

    I have 3 of them in a raid 0 on an Adaptec 5805 SAS RAID Controller. After 2-3 restarts i got a "disk read error", and after another restart the controller lost the array completly!

     

    I couldnt even initialise the drives to create another array!

     

    Now i am trying to secure erase the drives to at least create another array!

     

    the most important question being: WILL A FIXED FIRMWARE UPDATE MAKE THE DRIVES WORK AGAIN, OR WILL I HAVE TO SEND THEM IN?

    I spent >550€ on them, and i am deeply dissapointed now.

  • 81. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    BruceH Community Member
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    Trim will work for files deleted by Win7 after installation of the firmware.  The purpose of SSD Tools is to scavange the file system for files deleted from all partitions and perform trim on the associated SSD blocks.  Thus, SSD Tools should be scheduled to run periodically to clean up the SSD blocks corresponding to files deleted using another OS, in the case of dual boot with XP, etc.

  • 82. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    ambizytl Community Member
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    Kind of confusing what Intel says about the Optimizer and Toolbox. Seems like there is no need to run the Optimizer if using Windows 7 and Microsoft AHCI driver, but...

     

    When using the latest Microsoft Windows* 7 operating system with Microsoft AHCI storage drivers the OS will contain native support to execute the Intel® SSD Optimizer on an Intel SSD without requiring any user interaction.

     

    Microsoft Windows* 7
    Microsoft* AHCI
    Native OS support (Intel® SSD Toolbox not required)

  • 83. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    Community Member
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    I am more than a little freaked out, I installed this firmware update the other day in my MacBook Pro.  No issues yet, but some of these posts (especially with the serial number reporting bad) make it seem like it isn't OS-related.  I do run Windows 7 inside of a VM, but haven't used it since I updated the firmware, and I doubt this would translate through the VM drivers anyway.

     

    At any rate, I am crossing my fingers.  Any other OS X users out there who have, or have not, experienced the problem?

     

    Best of luck to everyone ... thanks!

  • 84. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    ferrugia Community Member
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    FYI - Looks Intel recommends scheduling the Optimizer to run daily...

     

     

    "TRIM will be available natively to users of Windows 7, but not to users of Vista or XP. The new optimizer toolbox also being released today, however, gives users the ability to execute the commands manually to optimize their drives The Toolbox also makes it possible to schedule and run the Optimizer automatically, which Intel recommends be run once a day to ensure maximum performance."

     

     

    http://hothardware.com/Articles/Intel-34nm-X25M-Gen-2-SSD-Performance-Update/?page=2

  • 85. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    ambizytl Community Member
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    You miss the point of my post. I know about the recommendation, but Intel says Toolbox is not required for Windows 7 and no user action is required, which kind of suggests Optimizer is not required Windows 7:

     

    "When using the latest Microsoft Windows* 7 operating system with Microsoft AHCI storage drivers the OS will contain native support to execute the Intel® SSD Optimizer on an Intel SSD without requiring any user interaction.

     

    Microsoft Windows* 7
    Microsoft* AHCI
    Native OS support (Intel® SSD Toolbox not required")

  • 86. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    ferrugia Community Member
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    I understand your point about native support.  This may be for pre-Windows7 operating systems or other environments which don't offer native support. Consider the following:

     

    "The Toolbox also features a graphical user interface that will allow end users to schedule and run the Trim command independent of the operating system."

     

    "Not only will Windows 7 users receive the performance enhancements of the Trim command, but so will our Windows XP and Vista users," said Pete Hazen, director of marketing, Intel NAND Solutions Group.

     

    Thanks for the response.

  • 87. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    cssd_run Community Member
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    ambizytl,

     

         I'm pretty sure the quote you posted:

     

    When using the latest Microsoft Windows* 7 operating system with Microsoft AHCI storage drivers the OS will contain native support to execute the Intel® SSD Optimizer on an Intel SSD without requiring any user interaction.

     

    Is coming from the Optimizer* white paper, correct?  I know it sounds a little bit confusing, but please take a look at Table 1 in the same section.  Should clear it up that Toolbox with Optimizer is not required for Windows* 7 with MSAHCI.

     

    Regards,

    Brady - Intel NAND Solutions Group

  • 88. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    blowd Community Member
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    The question is will INTEL recompense all the users? It is more than a shame, having payed a fortune for something not properly working, and worse, supply a FIX which makes it even worse.

     

    Embarising!!

  • 89. Re: TRIM update hosed my Windows 7 install
    ambizytl Community Member
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    Just to clear this up, if using Windows 7 with MSAHCI driver, then you do not need the Toolbox to run Optimizer because the SSD G2 drive does it automatically from within the drive?

     

    Message was edited by: ambizytl

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