14 Replies Latest reply: Mar 3, 2012 10:27 AM by geogherkins RSS

Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors

reinick Community Member
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I´ve got a DG965WH motherboard with a celeron 420 1,60 Ghz processor.  I want to know If I can use a 45 nm processor, for example: C2D E8200

  • 1. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    Aryan2411 Community Member
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    Hello,

     

    Here is the list below:

    Btw, E8200 is not on the list.

     

    http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965wh

     

    Collapse to hide the detailsIntel® Core™2 Quad Processor
    Expand to see the detailsQ67002.66 GHz8 MB10661713All
    Expand to see the detailsQ66002.40 GHz8 MB10661713Multiple Values
    Collapse to hide the detailsIntel® Core™2 Duo Desktop Processor
    Expand to see the detailsE67002.66 GHz4 MB10660816All
    Expand to see the detailsE66002.40 GHz4 MB1066Multiple ValuesAll
    Expand to see the detailsE64202.13 GHz4 MB10660816All
    Expand to see the detailsE64002.13 GHz2 MB10660816All
    Expand to see the detailsE63201.86 GHz4 MB10660816All
    Expand to see the detailsE63001.86 GHz2 MB10660816All
    Expand to see the detailsE47002.60 GHz2 MB8001719All
    Expand to see the detailsE46002.40 GHz2 MB8001713All
    Expand to see the detailsE45002.20 GHz2 MB8001698All
    Expand to see the detailsE44002.00 GHz2 MB8001698All
    Expand to see the detailsE43001.80 GHz2 MB8001614All
    Collapse to hide the detailsIntel® Pentium® Processor for Desktop
    Expand to see the detailsE22002.20 GHz1 MB8001713All
    Expand to see the detailsE21802.00 GHz1 MB8000816All
    Expand to see the detailsE21601.80 GHz1 MB800Multiple ValuesAll
    Expand to see the detailsE21401.60 GHz1 MB800Multiple ValuesAll
    Collapse to hide the detailsIntel® Pentium® Desktop Processor
    Expand to see the detailsE22202.40 GHz1 MB8001719All
    Collapse to hide the detailsIntel® Celeron® Processor
    Expand to see the detailsE15002.20 GHz512 KB8001713All
    Collapse to hide the detailsIntel® Celeron® Dual-Core Processor
    Expand to see the detailsE14002.00 GHz 800Multiple ValuesAll
    Expand to see the detailsE12001.60 GHz512 KB8001719All
    Collapse to hide the detailsCeleron® Processor
    Expand to see the details4402.00 GHz512 KB8001687All
    Expand to see the details4301.80 GHz512 KB8001687All
    Expand to see the details4201.60 GHz512 KB8001687All

     

    All the best,

     

    Kind Regards,

    Aryan.

  • 2. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    BIOS download for Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword=%22Intel+Desktop+Board+DG965WH%22
    The latest BIOS version available is listed as 1754.

    Compatible Processors for Board DG965WH
    http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?BoardName=dg965wh&Lang=en-US
    Lists many processors, like, for example, E6700 2.66Ghz Core 2 Duo. On that same page "Min BIOS Version" is 0816.

     

    It seems like the processor compatibility tool has some problems. Looking at my BIOS setup screens it looks like the DG965WH FSB is 800MHz, and many of the upgrade processors in the grid are at 1066MHz or better. Can the board actually run at 1066MHz? And where would I find a download for the 0816 version of this BIOS?

  • 3. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    geoperkins@yahoo.com

     

    It seems like the processor compatibility tool has some problems. Looking at my BIOS setup screens it looks like the DG965WH FSB is 800MHz, and many of the upgrade processors in the grid are at 1066MHz or better. Can the board actually run at 1066MHz? And where would I find a download for the 0816 version of this BIOS?

    I have found issues with that tool but this doesn't look like one of them. From the Technical Product Specifications for this motherboard available here: It mentions in para 1.3 "Intel Core 2 Duo processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 or 800 MHz system bus" (not that that mean all such processors are supported). The latest BIOS (which is reccomended over just version 0816) can be found by seaching the downloads for your board but you may need to select the 'discontinued' radio button near the top in order to be able to see and select your board model in the first place. Make sure you carefully read the instructions in the readme file on the download page to ensure you're fully conversant with what to do before flashing the BIOS.

     

  • 4. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    Thanks for the tip indicating 800/1066 FSB are both supported.

     

    Oh, now I see the "discontinued" radio button on the Main download search page. You have to get there by opening the home directory of that support site - not linking from elsewhere in Intel's pages and not using a non-Intel search engine. The radio button is not repeated on subsequent searches; one must start over from the beginning if you modify the terms of the search. Not the most elegant design, I do thank you for this tip!

     

    What I'm finding is that the Intel support download site seems to suffer intermittent crashes with "Page not found" often the result instead of giving a valid list. See for example: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng with search criteria filled in (doesn't matter what you search for) often redirects to: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Error.aspx?ErrorMsg=undefined for no particular reason. Clicking on the browser back button takes me to my search page again, and if I select different search criteria it is hit-or-miss that I get an actual search result page.

     

    Using Google, bypassing Intel's support search engine, I found a page to download the DG965WH 0816 BIOS, which I am planning to load on my system when I get home tonight. However, your comment, and the unreliability of the Intel download search engine, makes me wonder if there might be a more current version (0816 dates back to 2006). The ReadMe file for the BIOS does indicate expanded processor support in the version history released since my current BIOS.

  • 5. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    Glad you found the discontinued button - was just about to post a screenshot. Earlier today I had the same problems with Intels site but it seems to be crawling along again now. There's Plenty of far newer BIOS revisions available for this board from there. I'd NEVER choose any firmware from a third party search engine over the official source - who knows what may have been embedded in there or what file corruption may have occurred. Here's the download page I found on Intels website for your board.

     

    Remember to read up fully about how to flash the BIOS and back up all your valuable data first.

  • 6. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    The processor compatibility tool lists a BIOS version 0816 as required for DG965WH (for certain processors). That BIOS is very, very old. Maybe the tool defaults to the original BIOS developed for the DG965WH?? My DG965WH requires a BIOS with a version string incrementing upward from 1600's thru 1754 (which seems to be the most current). Luckily the BIOS upgrade checks versioning before applying. It told me I was putting on an old BIOS and failed. So far haven't had any luck with getting 1754 to work. I am back where I started, 1729. I'll look into it again, maybe need to install using one of the offline methods.

  • 7. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    geoperkins@yahoo.com

     

    The processor compatibility tool lists a BIOS version 0816 as required for DG965WH (for certain processors).

    No that 'min' at the top of the chart beside BIOS version means *at least* 0816 ie newer versions should still support the CPU fine. That means the version you already have should support it. What problems are you having?

  • 8. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    Problems I'm having:

    Occasionally the computer hangs during shutdown.

    Thanks for asking.

  • 9. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    What does event viewer (or even the screen itself - in some cases) say is stopping the shutdown? Sometimes such behaviour is driver related - which drivers off the Intel website have you installed (specifically)?

  • 10. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    Nothing logged in Windows System or Application logs. Nothing on the screen (just Windows "Shutting Down" and an hour glass). Yes could be drivers, could be hardware, who knows. Maybe a BIOS update could help. Also I just remembered another annoying thing is that the computer won't go into Standby or Hibernate consistently. There is often some process keeping the computer awake, but I can't find it and can't force a consistent sleep state. So hopeful maybe something in BIOS would help there too...

  • 11. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    Firstly, the fact that the latest BIOS won't flash onto the board using the express method may be because it's attempting to run on an unsupported OS - what OS are you using with the board (if it's not XP or Vista, it really should be - even though some Win 7 drivers may exist, that's far from guaranteed to work). It'd also be usefull to know (specifically) which drivers you've loaded on the system (they should all be direct from the Intel website). If you fix whatever's causing the express update to fail, you may well fix the other issues.

     

    Is this a freshly installed OS, if so and you've not had a chance to load much additional software onto the system, don't do so yet, you may need to perform another fresh install (especially if it's XP and you haven't performed an F6 install using AHCI drivers etc).

  • 12. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    It is WinXP Pro w/ SP3. Nothing unusual about what drivers are installed. Using Intel-provided for MB hardware options, or standard Windows drivers for everything else.

     

    I haven't had time to work on this since the intial problem with the express flash. Will post my results when I get there.

  • 13. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    Reporting progress:

     

    I successfully upgraded to the latest BIOS image (1754). For some reason the Intel MQ96510J.86A.1754.EB.EXE Windows XP executable did not function. Instead I used the download MQ96510J.86A.1754.BI.zip (extracted file MQ1754P.ISO) ISO image and boot from a CD in order to flash the BIOS update. Perhaps it is coded to require some specific version of Windows - just not Windows XP Professional SP3?

     

    I purchased 4 2GB sticks of DDR2 800MHz RAM (8GB total). (Corsair VS2GB800D2 PC2-6400). This memory has specifications that match the requirements listed in the DG965WH. Interestingly, the DG965WH indicates that the bus speed will be stepped down to 667MHz. I find that both the BIOS and the Intel Desktop Utilities reports the 8GB RAM running at 800MHz. Perhaps a BIOS improvement allows the higher clocking (and the documentation is out of date)? There is no specific mention of this in the BIOS upgrade readme files. Another strange thing: the Intel Desktop Utilities (version 3.0.14.19) reports total RAM as "8MB" instead of "8GB". Before my upgrade it may have reported "2MB" instead of "2GB", but I had never noticed this reporting error prior to today. Funny. Control Panel > System correctly reports the available RAM to the 32bit OS as 3.24GB.

     

    I have not yet upgraded to a 64bit operating system or ESXi. That is coming later, after I upgrade my processor to one that supports Intel VT (virtual technology) assist.

  • 14. Re: Motherboard DG965WH upgrade processors
    geogherkins Community Member
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    I upgraded the CPU to a Q6600. It works just fine.DG965WH automatically stepped up the clocking to 1066MHz. No BIOS or physical switches to set.

    I loaded both VMware ESXi 5.0 and Windows Home Server 2011 (both 64bit OS) and they work fine on the processor.

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