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      • 75. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room
        Christopher Peters


        Hi, I apologize for the delay in our response. I am not an expert on our chassis designs and will look for someone who can address those.



        As for the chipsets. For our 2 socket servers, we offer three different chipsets today that all work with the same dual-core and quad-core Xeon processors. The chipsets enable different levels of functionality for targeted usages


        • Intel 5000 chipset: Mainstream, general purpose server. This chipset features a rich mix of technology features (including support for up to 16 slots of FBD memory, 2 dedicated FSB running at 1333Mhz FSB, PCIe I/O. This chipset (in combination with our multi-core xeon processors) have delivered leading 2 socket server perfomance across a broad range of applicaitons and benchmarks. This has been the most popular and widely deployed chipset supporting both the dual-core and quad-core xeon processors since May 2006. Unless you have a specific use model in mind (below) this is the chipset you

        • Intel 5400 chipset: High performance computing servers and workstations. This chipset is optimized for enahanced bandwidth. Featuring a faster FSB (1600MHz), 2nd generation PCIe and a large snoop filter to optimize bus traffic. This chipset was introduced in Nov 07 with 45nm dual and quad-core processors and does support the older dual core and quad-core processors

        • Intel 5100 chipset: Entry and low power servers. This chipset is optimized for low power and cost, featuring a smaller memory footprint (up to 6 slots) and offer lower power DDR2 memory. This makes them an excellent choice for power constrained, power concsious or entry business servers. This chipset was introduced in Nov 07 with 45nm dual and quad-core processor and does support the older dual and quad-core processors.


        Other options for chipsets include ... Intel 3xxx chipsets support 1 socket servers and Intel 7xxx chipsets support 4+ socket servers






        • 76. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room


          CAD applications are not very threaded today, that might change in the future as software vendors start take advantage of multiple cores.  I assume you have a 2 Xeon's 5160s (3Ghz) in your workstation already?  You have a total for 4 threads (with 2 Xeons) which is quite sufficient for CAD.    You have pretty good high core frequency Xeons which are ideal for the single threaded nature of CAD.     You already have a pretty high end graphics card (Quadro FX3500) as well.    If you are looking to future proof your workstation, I might suggest the Xeon 5400 Quad core series as your next investment, if you are looking beyond CAD work for your workstation.  This would bring the total number of threads/core to 8, double of what you have today.  To get any benefit for CAD beyond the Xeons 5160 you have, you'd have to  upgrade Quad core processors that are > 3GHz, otherwise, you'd be downgrading as far as CAD workloads are concerned.  One benefit of upgrading to Quad cores is that these new processors would have larger L2 caches and if you are models are pretty big, they would minimize the load from memory/disk access, but like I said, I would also look to at least match the core frequency of the Xeons you have today.



          • 77. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

            For the chassis specific portion of your question, please refer to Table 2 of the Technical Product Specification : here


            Please let us know if this answers your question.

            • 78. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

              I've consulted with the experts and the easiest way to do this would be to load PXE via the Boot Options tab on DMiX and use the FLB file on the CD. That should change the eeprom and get DMiX to release the iscsi block on the teaming and vlan tabs. Optionally, you could boot to DOS and run the IBAUtil DOS utility to load the PXE image. Thanks and please let us know if this answers your question.

              • 79. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room


                Thanks for the question with respect to AutoCAD and CADWorX . 



                As my colleague pointed out in an earlier response, most CAD applications are indeed single threaded. 



                So that leaves the obvious question--- what do I do with a workstation with one processor and 4 cores and why do I need a workstation with two processors and 8 cores?



                The answer is of course not obvious, but one that is being seen lately is that users with two processor and 8 core workstations are indeed changing the way they work.  They are no longer working serially one task and then the next.  They are actually combining task and developing new parallel workflows where users design and also simulate and or render other objects. 



                They are changing their workstation from a simple CAD terminal into a virtual workbench that enables them to design, test and validate ideas faster than before.



                As to your graphics card question, unless you are involved in extremely fringe graphics needs in the CAD market your FX3500 is probably just right.  If your scenes are complex and you are doing a real-time walk through you may want to reconsider your card.



                • 80. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

                  I'm planning to buy to setup a sever for my enterprise business. Kindly tell which is the best one and leading one?And send the Spec also.

                  • 81. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room
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                    hi Sir i am doing 3D animation COurse. and still using ur core 2 duo 2.2 and intel 945 series motherboard.......but its not enough....i was checking out ur proccessor and mother board ..den i saw xeon quad core processor 5000 series and its compitable mother multicore....so i wanna kno....can i intall normal XP mean compitable hardware like which one hardware support like X64 or x32 bit....and i can use maya..this server configuration....cuz i think this will b good for us.....v can more and more....mean totally i wanna use server hardware like processor and motherboard as normal use for my 3D work it can possible or not.........pliz

                    • 82. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

                      Good day,


                      I teach technology in a business college.  Does Intel offer any educational recources, (i.e.: posters & literature) that I can frame and hang in our classroom?  I would appreciate any resources, assistance or direction you can offer.


                      Sincere thanks,


                      John Finkler, IS/IT Faculty

                        Bryant Stratton College

                        Willoughby Hills, OH 44092



                      • 83. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

                        Thanks for your question on enterprise servers. To properly answer, we would need to know much more about how you plan to use the servers. Could you please provide more details on what is the purpose for your servers? In the meantime, you could check out the Server Configurator Tool to get an idea on some of the possible solutions you may want to consider.

                        • 84. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

                          Thanks for your question. For 3D animation, Xeon Quad-core is a good choice, however, the amount of server processing power you will need depends on your workload among other considerations. While the Xeon 5000 series supports both 64 and 32-bit OS so you should have no problem in that regard. Click HERE for some information on Xeon 5000 series workstation motherboards. Please let us know if this has been helpful to you.

                          • 85. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room





                            We'd love to send you collaterals and posters.  We have the new campaign posters that we can send you right away.  I am also reaching out to Intel Education to see if there is any processor evoluation type of collateral that I can send you.



                            More updates to come.



                            • 86. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

                              i would like to know what is faster. i will paint the picture.

                              our software can only utilize a single core. therefore we have been changing in the bois dual cores to become singles and quads into duals.

                              but then there is Xeons and Extreme core's.

                              what is the fastest/most powerful setup/combo?

                              a EX quad or Xeon dual? or via versa

                              • 87. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room

                                Seems like you are asking two separate questions, so I'll address individually. If your code is truly serial only, then multi-core will not benefit you. First approach would be to consider parallelizing as much as possible. Check out this SITE to find out if you can take advantage of threading tools. On the second part of your question, XEON is designed to support Server applications at the enterprise level whereas Extreme is more for the power gamer and advanced desktop users. Hope this helps.

                                • 88. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room
                                  Christopher Peters

                                  I'm gonna chime in with Hank. It sounds like one of the applications you are looking at is single thread. Because of advancements in the intel microarchitecture, your application should see a speed up even with dual-core or quad-core. the most prevalent benchmarks for single thread app performance is specint (speed) and specfp (speed) benchmarks - note don't look at the throughput or rate benchmarks for this comparision.


                                  Example on integer speed:


                                  • the older netburst single core xeon arch ran at 3.8GHz and scored 11.4.

                                  • the new 45nm intel core arch dual-core (xeon 5200) runs at 3.33 GHz and scores 23.8

                                  • the new 45nm intel core arch quad-core (xeon 5400) runs at 3.16GHz and scores 24.1


                                  The reason is that with core arch is more efficient at each software thread, executing 4 instructions per every clock cycle and the front side bus is running faster and is dedicated to each processor - so your application can and should benefit from the latest architectures and platform our OEM partners offer.  On floating point the results are similar:  single core (11.7), dual core (24.4), quad-core (23.9)



                                  You can see the dual-core and quad-core results graphically on our performance website under integer speed and floating point speed.

                                  • 89. Re: Ask An Expert - The Server Room


                                    thanks for the feed back guys. yes in our field things move slowly. we have some software that need hummingbird to run with Windows, ( old Unix software).



                                      the software in question is WorkNC for CAM . all we need is horsepower in a single thread. we have gone from Xeon single 3.8GHz to 6700@ 2.66GHz and lately to a Quad EX9650 ( running as a dual 30% faster than the 2.66!)



                                    i am looking at purchasing more pc's and Dell reccomended the Xeon X5460 to be faster again to the Quad 9650 but i am not convinced should i be? were talking just number crunching here. there are sooo many cpu's out there it just gets a little too much. also theres never any cross comparing. ie Xeon to Extreme. only within a family, which doesnt help me too much.



                                    any advise would be greatly appriecated.















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