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      • 15. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
        m.oreilly

        asus has already updated many models with the required uefi stuff, i believe, but a new orom? i think we will be modding our bios (x79 users), at least we asus users.

        • 16. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
          Brad

          that would be a shame. Still, the gigabyte X79S-UP5 is very appealing, I might get one of those if it gets the update and the Asus board doesn't

          • 17. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
            drollenra

            the article http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-rapid-storage-technology-roadmap-windows-8-ssd-raid-trim-and-many-more/14638.html is right 11.6.x.xxxx IRST driver out now, we need to wait for the 11.6.0.1702 RAID OROM for the TRIM to work on older chipsets. Thanks Intel.

            • 18. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
              parsec

              Assuming this is true, that pre-7 series Intel chipsets will have TRIM in RAID 0 with the appropriate version of IRST and OROM, how do we know the various mother board manufactures will have BIOS updates to update the OROM on older boards? Assuming that it would work, the OROM is the main problem, IMO.

               

              My ASUS X58/ICH10R board was recently removed from the list of X58 boards that ASUS markets, along with its information and download page. There is a half hidden support page for this board that had a recent BIOS update for a VT-d issue, but prior to that the last BIOS revision was a year earlier. The latest Intel SATA driver available there is Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager Driver V8.9.0.1023 for Windows, posted there in September, 2009.


              I hope we will see TRIM in RAID 0 support for 6 series chipsets, but for anything earlier, I won't hold my breath. Would I be surprised if most mother board manufactures do not provide this for pre-6 series chipset boards? Nope, given my example above.


              Also, that VR-Zone article is old, and half of the "facts" that were floating around about TRIM in RAID 0 turned out to be false, as many of us now know. The only thing I'm waiting for is the truth and reality, whatever that turns out to be.

              • 19. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                Fernando

                parsec schrieb:

                 

                Assuming this is true, that pre-7 series Intel chipsets will have TRIM in RAID 0 with the appropriate version of IRST and OROM, how do we know the various mother board manufactures will have BIOS updates to update the OROM on older boards? Assuming that it would work, the OROM is the main problem, IMO.

                It is not a big problem to update the Intel RAID OROM yourself. And there are guides available about how to do it.

                 

                Regards

                Fernando

                • 20. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                  m.oreilly

                  there is a new bios out for the asus rampage extreme that includes a new (3.5) orom. i wish someone at intel would give us a clue re what we x79 users would need in terms of specific orom/drivers to have trim under raid...

                  • 21. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                    drollenra

                    Unfortunately, RSTe RAID OROM 3.5.0.1005 TRIM on RAID-Array still not working. I just tested it on my X79 system


                    Even the RAID OROM 11.6.0.1702 TRIM on RAID-Array is not working on my Z68 system


                    Edit: I used Fernando's Easy TRIM Test --->  http://www.station-drivers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4023

                    • 22. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                      luma

                      As another x79 owner that's left with a more expensive processor and system board only to get a less-capable RAID controller I have to say I'm not entirely pleased.  A website quoting a rumor of future TRIM support doesn't help - keep in mind that the initial TRIM rumors for RST came 9 months before Intel actually shipped it, and then only did so with their new system boards, but of course not their high end boards.

                       

                      What's doubly frustrating is the lack of input from Intel on what to expect here.  I read that TRIM was finally supported so I recently bought a second SSD and am currently reinstalling Windows, only to find that once again I'm left without a usable solution.  That's my fault, I should have done further research, etc etc, but shame on Intel for not making this happen and not letting their users know if or when it will happen.

                      • 23. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                        drollenra

                        @Fernando

                        Is it safe to mod and flash 11.6.0.1702 OROM on my X79 board? Does it support TRIM on RAID-array? TIA

                        • 24. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                          luma

                          @drollenra I can confirm the results of your testing.  Modded latest ASUS P9x79WS BIOS with the 3.5.0.1005 OROM, performed a fresh install of win7 ultimate, and loaded Fernando's modded drivers here: http://www.win-lite.de/wbb/board195-windows-7/board198-win7-treiber/15558-gemoddete-intel-ahci-und-raid-treiber/

                           

                          This failed the Easy TRIM Test (also from Fernando) posted above.

                          • 25. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                            m.oreilly

                            do not mod an x79 bios with an 11 series orom. it's been tried, and nothing good became of it. we wait...

                            • 26. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                              drollenra

                              Copy-pasted from my post at overclock.net --->

                               

                              I just received a good news for everyone!

                               

                              "11.6.0.1702 RAID OROM does support TRIM on RAID-0 (Cougar Point and Panther Point). 11.6.0.1030 IRST driver does NOT support TRIM on RAID-0.

                               

                              ^

                              I know there are lots of confusing information regarding TRIM on older chipsets, but, I will wait for the release of new IRST driver to prove my source of information if he is credible.


                              What I'm saying is that the TRIM on RAID-array support on older chipset are disabled on the IRST driver, unless someone knowledgeable enough to mod the driver to work on 5 or 6-series chipset".

                              • 27. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                                m.oreilly

                                this thread is focused on the x79 platform, if i'm not mistaken, so not sure where you are going re your post. we need the 3 series orom, or whatever numeration of orom/driver intel may release, to enable trim on our x79 systems. the ll series orom you mentioned will not work on the x79 platform...you may want to start your own thread re the p67, or other platforms you are concerned about...

                                • 28. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                                  parsec

                                  "Copy-pasted from my post at overclock.net --->

                                   

                                  I just received a good news for everyone!

                                   

                                  "11.6.0.1702 RAID OROM does support TRIM on RAID-0 (Cougar Point and Panther Point). 11.6.0.1030 IRST driver does NOT support TRIM on RAID-0."


                                  The King is dead, long live the King!


                                  Good news, RAID 0 is not supported in TRIM!


                                  Good news, IRST is not supported in RSTe!


                                  The real good news is, we know better!

                                  • 29. Re: trim on raid 0 with x79?
                                    m.oreilly

                                    ???