9 Replies Latest reply: May 3, 2012 2:38 PM by vbaderks RSS

Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?

spearson Community Member
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All,

 

For those of you who are unfamiliar with me, I am a Software Architect within Intel's Desktop Boards organization. I have responsibilities across all of the value-add software, including BIOS, that we provide with/for our desktop board products. Most of my postings have been with respect to the Intel® Desktop Utilities application - and this one is no different...

 

In the past, I have commented on a number of occasions regarding the relative age of the Intel® Desktop Utilities application, its dependencies on an older (what many nowadays would consider ancient) development environment and some of the problems that we have had addressing issues because of it. We've reached the point where it's time to retire this application. The question is what we replace it with – or (to be completely open) whether we should even continue to provide a separate application such as this…

 

We would like to provide you with an opportunity to play a role in our decision-making process. We would like to hear from you regarding what features of Intel® Desktop Utilities you like (and need), what features you don't like (or need) and what new features you would like to see added. Most importantly, we would like to hear your stories and anecdotes regarding how this application has helped you, how you have benefited from having its capabilities available to you and how you could benefit further from enhanced capabilities being made available.

 

Now, I have to say, we’re already (painfully!) aware of the issues that have, from time to time, prevented folks from making (best) use of this application – and there are (sigh!) many, many conversations regarding these issues via which you can vent if that’s your goal; we don’t need you bringing them into this conversation. Let’s keep it positive and on topic!

 

Thanks in advance,

…Scott

  • 1. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    bobnI Community Member
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    I would like to see an ability to easily turn on/off the background monitering  feature. So if you needed to run another monitering program for overclocking there would not be a conflict for resources. Just finished useing cpu-z and hwmoniter with prime 95 and it would be great to have desktop utilities replace those monitering programs. Core temps , system voltages, multiplier, base clock speed, core speed all in real time with min max  and a recording feature to a .txt file. I would much rather have an Intel utilities program than third party. Now that Intel is offering extreme series motherboards and overclocking features a full featured monitering program would fit right into Intels push into that market. I never liked the IDU color speedometer style , a tree like structure similar to hwmoniter is easy to read. GUI looks good but can be a pain if taken to extreme, rather see features , ease of use as opposed to trying to make it look like a frame from a game. Wish I knew desktop utilities better but it conflicted with other monitering programs and I uninstalled it after it displayed scary overtemp false warnings. Thanks for the chance for input .

  • 3. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    Al_Hill Community Member
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    Scott,

     

    I like IDU the way it is.  It does what I need it to do.

     

    I have tried other HW monitors.  IDU is simple, straight-forward, and no fluff.

     

    Keep it like it is.

     

    Doc

  • 4. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    JFFulcrum Community Member
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    I`m very disappointing about this tool. No individual CPU cores temperature monitoring, no instant logging, no direct fan control, anemic system information module - and it is still a 32-bit app in half-64bit world. For monitoring will be better include special version of HWMonitor PRO in box, belive me, this will be cheaper that spending programmers full-time work hours for near useless thing - send them to drivers teams, there are clearly visible lack of resources. Or, if Intel still need own branded tool to keep up with the Joneses AMD - make it right, with overclocking, in-OS bios updating, GPU management, clock-domains monitoring with full history and all the stuff people expect from MB vendor, especially buying the premium product, like me (DX79SI).

  • 5. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    Hello Scott and thanks for the opportunity to contribute! I've used successive versions of Intel Desktop Utilities with my DG45ID and Core 2 Duo 3.16 GHz E8500 CPU since day one and generally I've been happy with the added functionality it provides. The features I use are the ability to monitor voltages, fan speeds and generally whats going on in the system including which BIOS adjustable motherboard options are enabled such as onboard LAN and Audio etc. It was IDU that recently led me to the decision to replace my PSU with a more powerful one because the 3.3 volt rail was becoming too unstable (using the penultimate BIOS version 0131 - I'd tried 0135 but ditched that because of IDU warnings about low voltages on this rail). The thing is that NOW my 3.3 volt rail is stable (always 3.4 ~ 3.3 volts rather than 3.298 ~ 3.16), I've been able to upgrade to BIOS version 0135 without ANY of the (what I incorrectly assumed were false) warnings about low voltages and (more importantly) none of the locking into high speed fan mode that I was getting with all CPU power saving related options enabled. In short, I should have trusted IDU more because my PSU WAS responsible for the problems I was having with my PC (even including problems with poor Digital TV reception - the new 650 Watt PSU has cleared this all up totally). So IDU and the 0135 BIOS versions were actually doing their jobs properly and it was my lack of faith in your software holding things back!

     

    One change I would like to see going forward, is to amalgamate IDU fully with Intel Rapid Storage Technology software ie the one app tells you about ALL functionality with the same GUI throughout (which displays correctly at all compatible OS settings). My suggestion is to talk to the people behind Intels latest GUI design for the graphics drivers as that GUI is SWEET with its transparent 'hardware picture background' and brilliant visual effects. I do like the old fashioned speedo style gauges though because they make it easy to seperate out which gauge is showing what clearly and how much it's varying by - maybe a more modern style of the same principal is possible?

     

    Without IDU I would have had NO idea there was anything wrong with my PSU as the only other monitoring option for my board (HW Monitoring screen in the BIOS setup) isn't functional within Windows when Media Centre is loaded (when I was getting the voltage drops under load). It makes me wonder if problems I was sometimes getting with my old (long gone other brand Pentium Pro) motherboard weren't PSU related as well. Unfortunately that company provided no such monitoring tools so it's essential that this functionality remains for Intel Branded boards.

  • 6. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    Al_Hill Community Member
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    The link is fixed now.   Thanks.

     

    Doc

  • 7. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    rsnelson Community Member
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    I would like to see Intel invest in a new and modern software developement environment that would allow for new features.  I do not like to rely on third party programs for specific hardware information.  Seems like in the past (several years ago), that support for the new relased products from a third party tool took some time and then not all the information I needed was availble in the third party tool.

     

    You could probably drop some of the information that is reported as this can be found in other standard tools (like msinfo32).  You probably don't need hard drive smart information as this information also in the Intel SSD toolbox.

     

    Hardware monitoring (fan speeds, temps, voltage) is a must.

     

    I would like to be able to see BIOS settings and would like to even change these settings if possible (other competitors have this ability).  I would especially like to be able to change the fan settings while running Windows.

  • 9. Re: Intel® Desktop Utilities - What Next?
    vbaderks Community Member
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    Hi Scott,

     

    I like the style of the current Intel Desktop Utilities: clean and to the point.

     

    One of my main reasons to buy an Intel motherboard was the assumption that Intel provides up to date add-on-software. There are many vendors but maintaining quality releases of BIOS\drivers\manuals\tools seems often difficult in the world were technology is already outdated when you buy it.

     

    I think that duplicating info that Windows itself already provides is pointless but there are many unique things (such as the realtime monitoring of voltage and temperature) that IDU currently offers.

     

    If the IDU moves into directions of the GUI of the Intel Extreme Tuning Util. I would see that a postive thing. Quality is however my primary focus, I rather have a good tool than a tool that looks great but introduces systems issues.

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