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  • 15. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    rsnetto Community Member
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    Now I need to know which Gigabyte boards (maybe all of them) support PCI correctly. I wonder if the new Z68 boards work, it seems Gigabyte has discontinued the P67 models.

     

    Or maybe Intel brings a solution in the near future and I stick with the DP67BG...

  • 16. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    Nipo Community Member
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    Intel chipsets B65, Q67 support PCI natively, not some unreliable 3rd party legacy PCI bridge.

     

    PCI has no future, although it has still uses. P67 chipsets have been deprived of ther PCI by simply disabling the chip capability. So will be the Z77, but still support on the Q and B will remain in case needed. I'm hoping not only PCI will dissapear but it will not be intedgrated in the chip, not even disabled, but completely removed in any form.

     

    it's there but disabled, why, to make a point. PCI is old and slowly it will be eradicated.

  • 17. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    rsnetto Community Member
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    It doesn't matter if PCI "has no future". Intel chose to put it on Sandy Bridge boards and so it must work.

    If they were not able to find a technological solution to make it work, they should not have put these slots in the boards in the first place.

    Also, it's not a matter of "unreliable 3rd party legacy PCI bridge". As the user crash1013 said previously, he bought a Gigabyte board that has the same PCI bridge as Intel's and there it works.

     

    So the problem is in Intel's boards, not in the PCI bridge or the chipset itself.

  • 18. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    crash1013 Community Member
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    Thats exactly the way I see it, PCI was designed by intel, if they design a motherboard with PCI slots they should work period, end of discussion.

  • 19. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    Nipo Community Member
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    Here is the thing. PCI sound cards like SB rely on low latency and there was much talk about how important low latency was and that is why PCI was kept for so long.

     

    PCIe-to-PCI bridge still goes through PCIe and that is totally messing with how the card works that was initially designed to work on PCI.

     

    PCI latency can be set in BIOS, intel default is 32, the gigabyte could be 64?

     

    IRQ or software problem is not unlikely.

     

    Don't expect it to work ever. Just buy Gamer PCIe, like you had the money to buy an expensive CPU/MB and what not, and kept the legacy Audigy that is worse than integrated audio nowdays. It is even a software solution and puts the load on the CPU it doesn't have the hardware DSP chip.

  • 20. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    nileshrathi_18 Community Member
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    Hi All,

     

    I am having the exact same problem as "stevensh"

     

    Can't get the quad nic(Dlink DFE580TX) cards working in the 3 PCI slots. Intel support thinks that my motherboard may be faulty but after reading this post I think I should just opt for another board.

     

    Could anyboady suggest a good motherboard with 3 PCI slots please?

     

    Regards,

    Nilesh

  • 21. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    CaSuffit Community Member
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    hi,

     

    It seems to be the same problem with Q67 on DELL optiplex 790. The PCI bus latency is unworkable for fast transfer.

     

    Why they put a PCI slot if they don't want to support any device on it ???

     

     

    What's up with this issue ?

     

    I try both chiset from intel and from DELL, they look like  Beta version to do not remedy to this issue.

     

     

    Where are the Engineer By Intel ????

     

    Are they lost or fired on the last crisis ?

  • 22. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    rsnetto Community Member
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    CaSuffit wrote:

     

    It seems to be the same problem with Q67 on DELL optiplex 790. The PCI bus latency is unworkable for fast transfer.

     

    Why they put a PCI slot if they don't want to support any device on it ???

     

    If there is a problem with Q67, it may be a different issue.

    Q67 does have native PCI support, and it is considered an alternative for those who have problems with H67/P67.

     

    Also, as already stated earlier in this topic, motherboards from other manufacturers with P67/H67 don't have, or at least have less problems with PCI cards.

  • 23. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    CaSuffit Community Member
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    rsnetto a écrit:

     

    CaSuffit wrote:

     

    It seems to be the same problem with Q67 on DELL optiplex 790. The PCI bus latency is unworkable for fast transfer.

     

    Why they put a PCI slot if they don't want to support any device on it ???

     

    If there is a problem with Q67, it may be a different issue.

    Q67 does have native PCI support, and it is considered an alternative for those who have problems with H67/P67.

     

    Also, as already stated earlier in this topic, motherboards from other manufacturers with P67/H67 don't have, or at least have less problems with PCI cards.

    Q67 does have a native PCI express support

     

    but it looks to be a common issue in intel serie 6 chipset ....

     

    we just use a PCI framegrabber to view that the link is constantly broken.

    (works with X58 or Q45 ICH10 from 2008, but is unworkable with new chipset 2011)

  • 24. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    crash1013 Community Member
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    I am not so sure that this is related to latency, or rather or not the chipset has native PCI support. I think Intel has made some major architectual changes in the way they handle PCI resource allocation that for some reason is not compatible with mature PCI products. I suspect the problem is mostly software, since the designs work as expected with other motherboards having nearly identical components but with different BIOS versions.

  • 25. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    CaSuffit Community Member
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    It seems to be both way. Latency error is the result with serie 6 chipset, but we see previously the first attach against PCI with serie 4 chipset which ends up some PCI cards compatibility.

     

    Pci express is not a standard which gives the possibility to plug new devices on old PC. Only PCI does.

     

    The market leader in computers becomes only integrators, whithout know-how, and they want to fill up only services for smiles.

  • 26. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    SDouglas Community Member
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    I brought this issue up today (October 5, 2011) with an internal contact I've made at Intel who's part of the Extreme Desktop motherboard team.

     

    I just want to let folks know that they are very aware of the problem and are working on a fix.  My contact couldn't provide a timeframe for a fix, but did say it was a priority.  I know this doesn't help folks that are having problems now, but the engineers are working on it.

  • 27. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    greybird Community Member
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    Thanks for passing that info on. That's good news.

  • 28. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    CaSuffit Community Member
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    For the fix, we wait on it, it seems to be link with some BIOS values of PCI latency which are set to 00 on the DELL machines, seen by matrox engineering staff.

     

    Who set the wrong latency value ?  DELL or  Intel ?

  • 29. Re: DP67BG and PCI
    the19thbear Community Member
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    Listening:)

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