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  • 45. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    parsec Community Member
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    HA!!  Good one Kiwi, but actually I was referring to someone in another thread, I restrained myself in that one but I sooo wanted to say something there and it just slipped out in this one!!  Plus I wasn't 100% sure I was right, it seemed IDU was not working on their board, which was not supported by IDU, and they were using the latest version which wasn't meant for earlier boards it seems.  Of course I can't find that thread now, I'll keep looking... you may know what I'm talking about...

  • 46. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Curious592 Community Member
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    Well it seems the support is double backward.  The newer 7 series boards will have vPro support so the DQ boards are in line with IDU development.

  • 47. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    Often the last thing a network admin wants with a business PC (What vPro is aimed at)  is to have all sorts of bells and whistles in a utility (such as IDU) that the users can play around with if it's not absolutely essential for the PC's smooth running so I don't get your point Curious.

     

    Also, the newest boards are still currently 6 series so I wouldn't know anything about 7 series  (unless you're talking BMWs). Sorry, perhaps you can (very briefly) clarify your point?

  • 48. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Curious592 Community Member
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    It sounds like you are suggesting they abandon IDU or vPro.  Which is it?  I believe I'm usually rather clear about myself.

  • 49. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    Curious592 wrote:

     

    It sounds like you are suggesting they abandon IDU or vPro.

    Sorry, I don't know where you got that idea from - thats not correct. I simply don't understand your 'double backwards' statement.

  • 50. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    parsec Community Member
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    If I may interject, Kiwi and Curious, I believe what Curious is referring to is rather than IDU development moving for forward, to work with the newest 6 series and even newer 7 series chipset boards, IDU updates are targeted at one or more older socket 775 boards (G43 chipset, socket 775 CPUs, ie DG43GT), and older members of the DQ series boards (including Q45, Q43, and Q43 chipsets, socket 775 CPUs) which support vPRO and thus moving backwards.

     

    While I see your point Curious, the reason for this is likely that the boards and chipsets you referenced are still being sold, while some, including our beloved DG45ID, are now on the Legacy Board list: (Current boards at the top of the page, Legacy boards found via the link on the bottom of the page below)

     

    http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboard/index.htm?iid=mbd_body+dt_all

     

    Is this correct Curious?

     

    An aside, am I seeing H67, P67, and other 6 series boards with the potentially faulty (non-B3) chipsets included in the legacy board list?

  • 51. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Curious592 Community Member
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    More like I was trying to get into the heads of Intel which can be dangerous for someone of my experience.  Assuming I'm not exposing their strategies in discussing, I had assumed these boards simply remained in supply.  That could also indicate greater demand since I have little idea what HP, Dell etc use.  A brief discussion on Anandtech listed the vPro availability on H77 boards but doesn't indicate how widespread the feature would be if the variations are as great as presently found.  It seems logical that all boards at some point would have vPro, except the cheapest ones, particularly Atom.

    I would have responded sooner but I got lost thinking about migrating to 256 bit.

    I may have gotten lucky in getting a DG45ID instead of H67 simply because I could salvage RAM when needed.  To increase its use I may try a beta version of Windows 8 around July or whenever it's available to the general public.  Odds are the requirement will jump again for RAM and the price is still sort of high for old RAM.

  • 52. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    Thanks for your explanation parsec. I'm not familiar with which 6 series boards have IDU support but if many of the latest and greatest of those won't work with IDU, I wouldn't understand Intels reasoning. vPro, on the other hand, is aimed fairly and squarely at business users eg the executive series boards but I don't see the need for vPro on other boards eg why would a *typical* media series board owner need to have full remote management access to such a PC when they're more than likely in the same room or at least same house when wanting to utilise the machine. Some of the other vPro 'benifits' such as increased security through special HDD encryption technology would also be wasted on many non-business machines.

     

    Going back to the subject topic which is IDU with my DG45ID, I've uninstalled the latest version which wasn't intended for this board and installed the version which is officially supported and wouldn't you know it, the issue with the minimise and close buttons only being illuminated and flickering as long as the mouse is moving over them (but not still) remains I've not noticed this before now so I'm wondering if it may be something to do with the fact I'm running the SP1 x64 version of Win 7 with IE9 now - maybe I'm just more observant now I know Intel is taking an interest.... Can anyone else confirm they're experiencing this issue with a DG45ID and IDU 3.1.2.022?

  • 53. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    yf38 Community Member
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    Hi FK,

    I checked what you are asking with one of my DG45ID's and the buttons stay illuminated as they should do. IDU release 022.

    The system is windows 7 x64, with SP1, all drivers at last rev. and updates.

    I am also using IE9.

    The graphics is Intel graphics on board.

    May I suggest that you check the options in windows that control some effects about the windows behaviour , and also check if you have the same with some windows other than IDU.

  • 54. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Curious592 Community Member
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    One surprise for consumumer vPro board purchasers has been that software for using it is not included.  The cost does make it an enterprise feature or an expensive training tool.

    I can't see how the button issue is anything but a messed up Windows since that is a fairly low level integration function.  I haven't seen any differences between 64 and 32-bit except for the confusion about where some server files belong.  Some samples work now that did not before so I don't want to do a clean install on the system with missing device manager items.  An attempt to fix the the system without a clean install previously provided programming capability but some samples did not work correctly.  Post install fixes haven't proved satisfying.

    This may be a good time to try the System Repair feature of the installation.  It shouldn't even take multiple attempts (if nothing is seriously worsened, let it make further attempts).

  • 55. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    parsec Community Member
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    Kiwi,  That is exactly what I've got, IDU v 3.1.2.022 on my DG45ID, and I don't see any odd behavior with the illumination of the buttons when "pointed" to or moving over them.  While I don't see this mentioned in the Requirements section of the Readme file for IDU, and this is a pure guess, do you have MS Silverlight installed?  I do.  Any chance the behavior you see is related to your mouse, can you try another?  Try another USB port.  I'm using a corded USB mouse.  Recall that Kusamba has USB problems with his DG45ID.  Check Device Manager, USB connections for possible problems.  The behavior that you experience seems like an intermittent detection of the pointer, as if losing and establishing the contact between the mouse and PC.

     

    IMO IDU v3.1.2.022 is the best functioning release for this board I've used, but I have not tried the later versions.  To migrate back you must first remove IDU, as an over-install of earlier versions will not work, according to the Readme, as you know.

     

    I see your point about VPro, and I simply mentioned that since Curious did, and I noticed vPro support on the older boards supported by IDU that are currently being sold.

  • 56. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    parsec Community Member
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    Curious, now I'm curious, you mention migrating to 256 bit, on what?  A video card with 256 bit wide memory bus?

     

    Regarding RAM prices, yes it seems odd that DDR2 RAM can be more pricey that DDR3, but then look at old DDR memory prices, must be a supply and demand thing.

  • 57. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Curious592 Community Member
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    parsec;

    No, I've been wondering if Unicode will continue to consume so much of the increase for the operating system.

     

    The Crucial DDR3 prices seem higher than normal but the DDR2 is probably half what it was new.  I just want to avoid getting too much memory which always seems to happen to me.

  • 58. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    parsec Community Member
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    Kiwi,  I forgot to mention that I use Firefox as my browser, although IE 8 is installed too.

     

    A question about this latest version of IDU, does it display the CPU frequency?  I don't mean as it is shown in the IDU Sytem Information, which just showing the CPU spec, but a real time frequency display.  I have other hardware monitors that do this, that is common, but just wondering if that version of IDU does.  If so, that would be motivation to try it even if it is not necessarily meant for this board.

  • 59. Re: Calling all DG45ID users with Intel Desktop Utilities 3.1.3
    Flying_Kiwi Community Member
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    yf38 wrote:

     

    Hi FK,

    I checked what you are asking with one of my DG45ID's and the buttons stay illuminated as they should do. IDU release 022.

    The system is windows 7 x64, with SP1, all drivers at last rev. and updates.

    I am also using IE9.

    The graphics is Intel graphics on board.

    May I suggest that you check the options in windows that control some effects about the windows behaviour , and also check if you have the same with some windows other than IDU.

    The same as my setup precisely. You really had me scratching my head over this but I thought what have I changed away from default values and it came to me.... Display setting is set to Larger (150%) and not the default 100%. If I change this setting to either 100% or even 125 % the buttons illuminate normally.

     

    Perhaps you can test at 150% yf38 and let me know if you get the same problem cropping up now? FWIW all my other windows have buttons that illuminate normally (irrespective of the enlargement setting) so it's clearly something within IDUs coding which is causing (or contributing to) this flickering button illumination issue.

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