Hey Cpt.Dogfruit are you really the Captain of Dog looking Fruities,because I think you are...Now if these boards are so safe and sound like parsec and yourself why is there going to be compensation for OEM system makers for having bought and what ever they made using intels cougar point chipsets...My,My you all are so dopey and think that us all we'll believe every single hot tempered boy or gay man that may come up on these forums...Please do all studying and make sure that from the start that Doc really did agree with parsec,because I defended Doc at one time...So fly off to the same bed as parsec in the intel camp of crawlers or maybe even intel plants...Enjoy and buy little Cpt.Dogfruit to your hearts delight all of these cougar point chipsets now before they are returned to be repaired,at least buy your favourite motherboards manufacturer brand of the intel cougar point chipset...
Sorry Cpt.Dogfruit...I forgot to waste your time more and that is to tell you about the estimated compensation amount that we'll be paid to the OEM system makers...It is around the $87.50 cents mark... Don't forget to BUY,BUY and ENJOY every single faulty cougar chipset motherboard that you can get your hands on from your favorite MoBo brand...
So Cpt.Dogfruit or may I say not a captain anymore,but just a little fruity...So I have written up the normal posts and you boy is what I call just a trouble maker,joining in with others that do not really understand the complications of what is going on...But again BUY,BUY and ENJOY all your favorite brand name MoBo's you can get before they are returned to be repaired...
Very nice, let's pat intel on the back for not doing their jobs in the first place and then coming forward about it. There is only ONE reason why they came forward and that is because they figured it would be the cheaper option rather than to try to hide and bury their findings. That is the ONLY reason.
Where are we in society today that we have to laude the fact that a company is being honest? They don't get bonus points for this. They screwed up and then put a spin on it and people like you have bought it hook, line and sinker. Congrats to their PR department, but this whole situation stinks and I think their is a whole lot more to this story than we're being told.
I would like to add to one of my posts up above that mentioned the compensation amount...The $87.50 cents is per cougar point chipset to be repaired...Total is around $700 million estimated repair costs which include shipping and a estimated loss of around $300 million profit if it would have been an untroubled launch to the Sandy Bridge and Cougar Point combination...
Funny george that you are spoiling for a fight so much, so much intelligence you have and yet you can still not have a normal conversation or discussion with any one? NO ONE has insulted you or been offensive to you, but you are continually being like that twoards other people who are just putting their opinions across, funny how i just saw another comment of your on another thread,on a subject which you did not have anything usefull to say and suprisingly you were again you were there just to belittle people. Also you should maybe read up so more as you are so keen on the saying... where did you get this little gem from : "estimated compensation amount that we'll be paid to the OEM system makers" From all what i have read the figures you give are for repair and replacement of the 8 million affected chipsets NOT compensation..there is a BIG difference.
Are you by chance just trolling?
So just to recap:
-"Hey Cpt.Dogfruit are you really the Captain of Dog looking Fruities,because I think you are..." "My you all are so dopey and think that us all we'll believe every single hot tempered boy or gay man that may come up on these forums..." "So Cpt.Dogfruit or may I say not a captain anymore,but just a little fruity..." offensive and not particulary useful
-"Now if these boards are so safe and sound like parsec and yourself why is there going to be compensation for OEM system makers for having bought and what ever they made using intels cougar point chipsets.." What compensation??? As you say yourself in a later post the money is for repair and replacements!!!!!
- "ut again BUY,BUY and ENJOY all your favorite brand name MoBo's you can get before they are returned to be repaired..." "Don't forget to BUY,BUY and ENJOY every single faulty cougar chipset motherboard that you can get your hands on from your favorite MoBo brand..." You have no idea what i do or do not buy nor what i even own right this moment. I have never sai go and buy, what i belive parsec, doc and myself are saying is that if you have one already you have options, you do not have to run a round trying to get a witch hunt going, nor if your system is working have to run around yelling for a refund and compensations and god knows what else. I personally don't favour manyu companies or brands if any, all that we were doing is giving our honest opinions on the information that has been provided. I am not defending intel nor criticizing them, the situation is what it is. Just don't think it is fair people go around trolling, bullying and scaremoongering.
Oh, and one other small thing, very bad form indeed to tell people not to give advice on forums in which the whole point is to share and give out advice SPECIALLY when i can find no post at all from yourself when you have given out any useful or relevant advice.
rickss69, when you say you lost those drives, are they completely non-functional, as in if you reformatted them and tried them they would be non-responsive? Or is it a data corruption issue? What does a Windows error check of the drives tell you, if you are able to run it that is. Of course any problems with your drives is bad, sorry to hear about that. We would like to know if your drives were permanently damaged or not. The official statement from Intel is that there will be no damage to the devices connected to the SATA 2 ports.
Regarding the over-clocking of the CPU contributing to your problems, speculating on that is difficult and the endless scenarios possible probably won't bring us to a definitive answer. On previous Intel CPU/Chipset platforms, I don't recall seeing any problems with the disk I/O system that were related to CPU over-clocking. But in systems like the X58/1366, the ICH10R chip that performs disk I/O duties is not directly connected to the CPU, and it's control and power voltages were not related to those of the CPU.
In Sandy Bridge CPU systems, are any of the CPU voltage settings connected with the H67 or P67 PCH chips? If so, then increasing voltages to the CPU that are common to the PCH could be a factor.
You are more likely seeing the results of "accelerated wear" on the PCH due to your full usage of the SATA ports rather than issues caused by over-clocking. Not that it's your fault, your usage is obviously within what is expected of these chips. Your usage, although at the maximum possible, and the possible early failure of the PCH chip given the known issue does not look good for the failure rate of these chips. From a statistics point of view, given one possible failure out of the millions of chips produced, is not enough to come to any conclusion.
We really need to know if your drives were permanently damaged.
For the guys back at the begining who started this thread who wanted to confirm if they are impacted or not.
Here is a good quick check in windows to tell you if you have the "Couger Point" chipset you have might have the issue.
For a guy who claims to have no affiliation whatsoever with Intel, you sure do use a lot of "we" and "us" statements in this post and it seems like you are awfully concerned with iformation you "need."
Just saying. If you truly don't have any affiliation with Intel, then you probably shouldn't use "we" and "us" statements as it implies that you are!!
No, the drives are not damaged, just the data on them (OS). I can re-formatt and install again (which I did a couple of times before swapping to new drives). My thinking was the overclocking led to more voltage passing through the chipset which is what I guess to be the cause of the degradation. Heat was not a factor i don't beleive as I run a TEC or phase on the cpu when benching. Everything pretty much on auto in bios except vcore (1.52) and dram (1.70).
I start off by saying thank you that was very informative and I'm certainly leaning to your way of thinking regarding the air bag theory Just hope you never have to use it. In a nutshell, because i got a bit lost with Gen3 SATA, 6g SATA, gen 2 speed (3G). This factory delivery computer with TWO HDD and 1 optical drive, so can I get the vendor to check if both HDDs are connected to Gen3 SATA 0-1 ports to bypass 'my' problem completely?
Parsec, thank you also. I think I've got a fair understanding betwenn you and the Doc. I'm not going to be overclocking this thing, just doing some video encoding. I guess I just don't wantr to think that the HDD is slowing down. I back everthing up so I'm not really worried about failure. Unless it's out of the warranty period which in my experience it usally is. Just a day out. The 'to be picked up' laptop has two 500 HDD in it and a Blue Ray as an optical drive. Hoping at least one if not both HDD are connected to the SATA3 0-1, then there should be no dramas. If on the 5% chance that it does effect 'me'. Would 20% reduction in performance really effect the Blue Ray. I like your replacment synopsis. In three month I expect my laptop to be in brand new condition. So I should keep an eye on the Asus website and speak to the vendor to see what information they have revcieved from Intel.
You still have small chance that the optical drive SATA port might fail some time, but if that port fails you don't loose any data, You might get disk read errors on the optical drive, but for most folks the optical drive gets used so little, it would likely last much longer than the computer life.
I would make sure of the system warranty terms (most are about 3 years and they may have some stipulations concerning this issue) and many vendor will just give you a credit equal to the cost of the board which you then use to order whatever replacement board you like at that time. Of course desktop system release a new family about every 1 1/2 years, so if you wait 3 years to order a replacement, it might be hard to find a mother board that supports Sandy Bridge since it would be obsolete by then and you might just have to settle for yet another newer, faster and more powerful system. Just a thought.....