This thread is effectively a continuation of "Random drive fails with new Matrix Storage Manager 8.9" that has been locked - a pity because it was a valuable source if information.
I am about to conduct a major hardware and OS update of a PC having a RAID10 setup. Previously the system has been running 8.8 under Vista without problems. The update will include Win7, but I am uncertain which version of IMSM/IRST to use:-
Intel's Elizabeth, in post 423 of the original thread, stated that the Win7 in-box driver is similar to 220.127.116.113, but not identical. Has anyone using the Win7 in-box RAID driver had any problems with this version? However, I think that unless the "manager" part of IMSM has been separately installed the user may not be aware that it was randomly dropping drives from the array if they recover quickly.
I would appreciate feedback from anyone using the embedded Win7 RAID driver.
8.9 seems to be a huge problem for many people. Wouldn't even boot for me.
9.5.1004 allowed my system to boot and appeared to be OK at first, but has given me a week of unbelievable grief. System would regulalrly freeze (30mins to 2 hours after starting up) without BSOD and with only an occasional iastor error in the logs.
Today, I 'rolled back' to the 'in the box' Win 7 driver, and so far all appears to be fine. Zero errors in event log and (so far) five hours of flawless operation. The console from 9.5.1004 seems to work OK with the 'in the box' driver (but I suspect that an earlier console would be better).
I'd strongly urge you to stick with the drivers that install with Win 7 if you want the system to work!
Well I ended up installing 18.104.22.1681 last night and left the computer on overnight. So far, no problems but I will update this if that changes. I ran the verify and it reported 0 errors (verifications or media). It may take a while to see if this works because the dropping of a drive from the RAID did not happen daily, It was random and took a week or two before it would happen. I could try copying large avi files across my home network to stress test it.
This morning I enabled the write-back cache (I have a UPS so I'm not worried about a power failure).
I've been running 22.214.171.1247 since December 7th without a problem (knock on wood). It's highly likely the 8.9 random drive failures problem has been resolved. I've been fortune so far not to have experienced any of the problems that seem associated with this beta.
And I look forward to the final release.
I used 126.96.36.1997 for about 12 hours, during this time two times computer locked up and 2 drives dropped out from RAID10, this was enough testing and installed driver version 8.8, did RAID rebuild and now i have 2 weeks uptime without any problems.
If you have problems please try 8.8. I'm definitely not upgrading any more...
System: Intel X58, W7-64
Thanks for your input everyone.
The reason I was originally asking the question was because I was about to execute a major hardware and software update (including 64-bit Win7) to an existing system which was a 7 hour flight away. I have now completed that upgrade.
Because I had experienced problems with 8.9 on other systems (running Vista) but found 8.8 perfectly stable I started by installing 8.8 on the Win7 system. I immediately found 8.8 did not run well on Win7, with freezes during bootup. I was not surprised that 8.8 did not work properly because Intel make it very clear that 8.8 does not support Win7.
The next choice was to use the inbox driver, which worked well. The inbox 64-bit version installs as 188.8.131.522. Because the inbox driver was working so well I did not see any point in trying the troublesome 8.9 or the yet-to-be released 9.5
I then installed, using the -N switch, the the RAID manager from 8.8 (8.8.01009) which also seems to work well with 64-bit Win7 and the inbox driver.
Based on my experience my advice would be to use the inbox driver withWin7 (at least on 64 bit systems) and wait until the official release of 9.5 before attempting to upgrade.
I'm still running 184.108.40.2061 since my December 23rd post. Not one problem yet and I often leave the system on overnight.
I have SMART turned on in Bios and I also turned on the write-back cache.
The only strange thing I found with the Rapid Storage RAID manager software is that it displays a little bubble message over the system tray at login that is intended to make you feel good but it uses the words "Hard Drive" and "Failure" in the same sentance. It actually says something like "one or more of your hard drives are protected from failure" (because of the RAID type used). Anyone who had problems with drives falling out out of a RAID will be sensitive to these pop up messages. It is displayed the same way as the real failure messages. I think Intel should drop that message from the software.
I have used 220.127.116.117 drivers since early December and have not encountered any problems or errors. I have two hard drives in RAID1 and another two in RAID0. My main "harddrive" is an Intel SSD X-25M G2 160MB. OS is Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. Motherboard is ASUS P7P55D EVO (with IMSM option ROM version 8.9.1023).
My setup is as follows and I have not had any issues with the new RST 18.104.22.1681 driver. Notice that I have the Time-Limited Error Recovery (TLER) to 7 seconds for read and write. I am wondering if these drivers assume that you have enterprise level drives for your RAID configurations and is banking on the TLER being set to ON.
Hope this helps,
Was keeping up with the prev thread for a while just came back to it to see if there was a fix and it's locked.
Still no official release from Intel after 8.9 for Windows 7. Shame, it's been way too long. I also, through official Intel Chat Support on 12/2/2009, documented my setup and related failures which were/are same as most on the prev thread. Never heard from anyone from Intel except the form-letter type email with the link to the following that to this day still says downgrade but 8.8 not for Win7 or try 9.5 which is of course was never officially released:
Interesting that no one from Intel has commented on this new thread. Elizabeth was working hard, but no word from her toward then end when the prev was locked. We really need a perm resolution to this 8.9 issue. In the mean time, a post from Intel with a current status and that Intel is still working the issue toward resolution.
Thanks for the link Keith, great heads-up. This is very interesting, the file is dated 14 Oct 2009!
Like many others, I have been regularly checking to see if 9.5 has been officially released. Pre-release versions have been available for several months, but still no full version. I had put this down to Intel having problems in making it work correctly, or perhaps problems in getting the Trim command to work for SSD's. But the existence of this Intel M/B board version is puzzling, when as far as I am aware the controller hub on these Intel boards is identical to the controllers on other vendors boards. Presumably Intel have fixed the problem for their own boards, but the fix does not work on all boards because of differences in chipset implementation. If this is the case 9.5 may solve the problem with some boards, but there may still be problems with a few others - but how do Intel know this when they say that they have not been able to reproduce the problem? Puzzling. Clarification from Elizabeth would be very helpful.
I have found that 8.8 works fine on all the Vista systems I have built, and the embedded driver works well on all Win7 systems, which when coupled with the grief I experienced with 8.9 on several boards, leads me to be in no hurry to experiment. However, I have previously used Intel board only versions of the chipset INF files with other vendor's boards with no problems at all.....
Has anyone tried these Intel-only 9.5 drivers on non-Intel boards?