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GMA 3650 aka. PowerVR sgx545 and Linux

idata
Employee
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Hello,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems there is absolutely no support for Intel GMA 3650 chipsets on Linux ?

There's a lot of similarities with the GMA500 case, a few years ago for which there is still only very poor

drivers under Linux. The GMA500 was also a chipset from PowerVR painted with Intel colors.

Will it be the same fiasco with this GMA series ?

Or maybe I missed something ?

By the way, I tryed to ask the developpers of PowerVR drivers and they told me to ask Intel support.

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DArce
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Hello,

Most versions of the Linux* operating system include Intel® graphics drivers. Intel recommends checking with your Linux distribution vendor or computer manufacturer for updated drivers.

I suggest you to check the information available on the following article:

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-010512.htm http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-010512.htm

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idata
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Hello Diego at Intel,

I suggest you do some actual research before pointing to a webpage that lists other graphics chips than the one in question.

GMA3600 and GMA3650 on atom n2600 and n2800 does not currently have proper support in any linux distribution. Except some experimental closed source drivers in meego linux.

You should put up a BIG WARNING to people planning to use these graphincs chips in linux! Most intel graphics have excellent linux support, but the gma500 and now recently gma3600 and gma3650 have really poor support and closed source drivers.

idata
Employee
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Ok, I'd really appreciate any statement from Intel representatives whether Linux (but not just Meego) users should or should not delude themself to get the true 2D and 3D support for GMA3650. Please, act professionally and be honest with us.

Unfortunately, though I like my DN2800MT, I'm forced to seek for an alternate product for my Linux-powered HTPC. That's a shame. In case any hope exists for GMA3650 Linux drivers I can wait, but tell me it's not hopeless.

Regards,

Tomek

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idata
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idata
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I wanted to point out your link was not informative at all, but I hesitated cause I didn't want to make an account. I decided to man up and tell you, as the last guy did, that you just blurted out a random link that does not address the problem at all.

What the linux/freebsd community would love would be a graphics card that comes with linux support. I was just about to buy an intel D2700 board the other day because it was fanless, has an intel NIC, and could play 1080p. Then I found out the graphics chip it has doesn't have useable linux drivers. This is basically unacceptable for me... I'l gonna have to wait until Intel HD graphics make it into a fanless motherboard or just go AMD.

idata
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Hello Diego at Intel,

I suggest you do some actual research before pointing to a webpage that lists other graphics chips than the one in question.

GMA3600 and GMA3650 on atom n2600 and n2800 does not currently have proper support in any linux distribution. Except some experimental closed source drivers in meego linux.

You should put up a BIG WARNING to people planning to use these graphincs chips in linux! Most intel graphics have excellent linux support, but the gma500 and now recently gma3600 and gma3650 have really poor support and closed source drivers.

idata
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Lack of proper linux support is a big disappointment. No one cares about drivers for a discontinued minor distribution such as MeeGo.

Please address the problem, so that at least video acceleration could be present in main distributions!

idata
Employee
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It is an utter disgrace that Intel does not provide drivers for this hardware other than Windows 7.

I mean come on, it is not like we are asking for an arm and a leg. We just want basic functionallity.

A simple Linux driver that offers stability would suffice, but even that seems to be to much to ask.

It would appear that Intel has become to big and thinks that they can slack on what made them great.

The last thing a company should ever do is cut back on support for its products.

Lead, follow or get out of the way, it is 2012 and not 1998.

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idata
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Glad I found this thread. I was about to place an order for 20 of D2700/GMA 3600-based mini-pcs which would run Ubuntu. I was so happy with a similar setup using Atom D525 + GMA 3150 and I thought I could not go wrong about Cedar Trail. Now I am considering AMD Fusion architecture instead, just bought a test unit.

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powerarmour
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drifter wrote:

Now I am considering AMD Fusion architecture instead, just bought a test unit.

Sad to say, but you are doing the right thing, no doubt about it.

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idata
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idata
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Hi, regarding the compatibility of the GMA 3600 series hardware in Linux I'd like to know if there will be a release of the source code or a source closed proprietary driver (like MeeGo/Tizen) or Linux users should be advised not to buy Intel hardware in the future.

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idata
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Meego why no problems with performance? However, this operating system nobody uses.

 

Why did you not do the same normal driver, but for the rest of the more popular Linux distributions?

Why are we, the users GMA 3600/3650, should be deprived? But at the same time for the rest of you are still doing the drivers?

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WMak
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I follow the doc from Intel:

http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/enabling_hardware_accelerated_playback_ubuntu_12.pdf http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/enabling_hardware_accelerated_playback_ubuntu_12.pdf

However, I can't compile mplayer with vaapi. (On section 4.5)

./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-xv --enable-gl --enable-vaapi --disable-vdpau --disable-mencoder --disable-faad --enable-runtime-cpudetection

make

Errors

=====

ffmpeg/libavcodec/libavcodec.a(ituh263enc.o): In function `ff_clean_h263_qscales':

ituh263enc.c:(.text+0x2615): undefined reference to `ff_init_qscale_tab'

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

make: *** [mplayer] Error 1

Any clues?

Thanks,

Wilson

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MCzyk
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Wilson, try without "--disable-mencoder" option.

Corrigendum to http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/enabling_hardware_accelerated_playback_ubuntu_12.pdf http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/enabling_hardware_accelerated_playback_ubuntu_12.pdf

4.3.10

Install dependencies for menuconfig:

sudo apt-get install build-essential libncurses-dev

4.3.34

sudo apt-get install libva1 libva-glx1 libva-tpi1 vainfo libva-dev

4.3.36

After extracting cedarview-vaapi-v1.0.1_bee.tar move "dri" directory to correct location.

sudo cp -r /usr/lib/dri /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu

sudo rm -r /usr/lib/dri

4.3.38

-Do not add "video=LVDS-1:d"

4.4.1

sudo apt-get install libXi-dev libXfont-dev libXext-dev libdrm-dev libpciaccess-dev libpixman-1-dev libexpat1-dev freeglut3-dev libXfixes-dev libXv-dev libXpm-dev libXres-dev libXrender-dev libdmx-dev libxkbfile-dev libXinerama-dev libXdamage-dev libXxf86vm-dev mesa-utils libtool autoconf

4.5.2

sudo apt-get install libasound2 libasound2-dev

4.5.39

./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-xv --enable-gl --enable-vaapi --disable-vdpau --disable-faad --enable-runtime-cpudetection

Dear Intel Company,

The fact that you do not provide support and drivers for current Linux Kernel and Xorg server versions for your GPU makes you worse than NVidia. I think that Linus Torvalds choose wrong recipient for his middle finger. You would be more appropriate.

You welcome,

 

your former customer

Mateusz

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powerarmour
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Would also love to be able to get the GMA 3650 working well under Linux (tested Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, which kinda works in 2D, but has limited resolution options available).

I know there are issues on when/if Imagination Tech ever provide open source graphics support, but even a closed source binary would be nice (other than the one included in Meego 1.2), so we could install it ourselves and get our systems working well.

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idata
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I am stuck with tens of DN2800MT motherboards that I cannot use because of this nonexistent Linux graphics driver. I would like a response, too.

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idata
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Let's make it clear: the fb driver (at least in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS) does support the sgx545 even at 1600x1200 but the performance is next to useless. Scrolling windows in Firefox or moving the application windows over the desktop, any screen activity is not acceptable.

Currently I can only use my DN2800MT as a homeserver, not a mediacenter of any kind, though it has a great processor, HDMI, DDR3 and a great potential wasted by Intel's ignorance.

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powerarmour
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Yep, i agree it does seem wasted at the moment. For a fanless system that only consumes <15W it's pretty much the best out there, it's just that PowerVR curse striking again just like it did with GMA 500.

What really rubs salt into the wounds is how good a SGX 545 performs on Android with a weaker ARM processor and a much lower clockrate, yet all we have at the moment on x86 is GPU that can barely display a static 2D image, let alone decent resolution support. Disappointing.

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Ali_R_Intel
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Graphics drivers for the Intel® Atom™ Processors N2600 and N2800 are available for the following supported operating systems:

Ali@Intel

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