5 Replies Latest reply: Feb 16, 2013 9:12 AM by mach128x RSS

Older integrated graphics drivers for Windows 8 : we need them

mach128x Community Member
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I recently upgraded to Windows 8 Pro on my 2 PCs. Previously was running Windows 7 Pro.

 

One is a Dell 1525 latptop with the GM965 chipset and X3100 graphics.

To my surprise, no drivers are available from Intel for Windows 8 !

 

The stock Microsoft driver is buggy, has crappy OpenGL performance, won't allow proper resolutions on external monitors...

It might work for basic single display duties on grandma's laptop, but fails under any more serious scenario.

 

Morever, that much needed driver was available for Windows 7 and worked flawlessly (for me anyways).

So I tried the very same driver on Windows 8, but the install fails.

 

What is it that changed SO MUCH between Windows 7 and Windows 8 that make this driver not work anymore ??

It's not like we're trying to port a Windows ME x86 driver to Windows 8 x64 or something !!!

It's Windows 7 vs 8, dammit !

 

Or is it more a case of Intel not wanting to do anything at all to help their user base ???

 

Yesterday I checked my buddy's build for Windows 8 compatibility. The 7 years old GeForce is still supported by nVidia just as if it had been released last week.

 

Where are your drivers, Intel ?

  • 1. Re: Older integrated graphics drivers for Windows 8 : we need them
    michael_intel Community Member
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    Hello,


    There is a chance you could try updates with drivers available through Microsoft Windows Update or you could try installing a different Microsoft* Windows* 7 driver at the link below:

     

    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+965+Express+Chipset+Family&ProdId=2800&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39

     

    Bear in mind when the Intel 965 Express Chipset Family was first out into the market a few years ago, it was not build to work with with newer operating systems like Microsoft* Windows* 8. I understand that Microsoft* Windows* 7 and Microsoft* Windows* 8 should be the same, but it is a completely different operating system so not all drivers will work the same.

     

    For more information regarding Microsoft* Windows* 8 and your Intel 965 Express Chipset Family controller go to the following URL:


    http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-033838.htm


    Regards,

    Michael


  • 2. Re: Older integrated graphics drivers for Windows 8 : we need them
    mach128x Community Member
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    Hi Michael,

     

    Thank you for the reply. However I'd appreciate if you could clarify a few points.

     

    Per your 2nd link :

    How do I check which WDDM version is supported by my Intel graphics driver?

    To check your WDDM version, find your Intel graphics driver version and look at the first number. 

     

    For help, see How to Identify your Driver Version.

     

    Driver Version's First Number WDDM Version

    9

    1.2

    8

    1.1

    7

    1.0

     

    As per your first link :

    The latest "Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows* 7 64 (zip)" available through the Download Center and released 10/2/2009 is : 15.12.75.4.64.1930 (8.15.10.1930)

     

    --> Ok, so per the above, the latest Win 7 driver for the GM965 is WDDM 1.1 .

     

     

    As per your 2nd link:

    What graphics driver models are supported on Windows 8?

    Graphics drivers for Microsoft Windows 8 support two different graphics driver models:

    Windows Display Driver Model WDDM v1.1*

    Windows Display Driver Model WDDM v1.2*

     

    --> So, that Windows 7 GM965 driver should definitely be supported under Windows 8, right ?

     

    Well, it doesn't install.

     

    Can you confirm it's only the installer that's causing the problem? Could I potentially work around it ? Or otherwise hack the .inf or else ?

     

    Thanks

  • 3. Re: Older integrated graphics drivers for Windows 8 : we need them
    michael_intel Community Member
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    Hello,


    1.2 is the WDDM version for Microsoft* Windows* 8 for all graphics drivers.

     

    The following Intel Processor graphics and integrated graphics have drivers for the Windows 8 operating system:

    3rd Generation Intel Core™ Processors with Intel® HD Graphics 4000/2500

    2nd Generation Intel Core™ Processors with Intel® HD Graphics 3000/2000

    Intel Atom™ processor Z2760 with Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator

     

    If the Microsoft* Windows* 7 driver does not work, then is best if you use another operating system that it is supported.

     

    Regards,

    Michael

  • 4. Re: Older integrated graphics drivers for Windows 8 : we need them
    cheery60771 Community Member
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        Hello, @michael_intel.  WDDM 1.1 is supported under Windows 8 with the exception of the WEI not completing w/o assistance.  I'm using Intel 965 driver 8.15.10.2697 dated 10/1/2012 and it works OK with my dual monitor setup.

     

       The fact remains that this chipset and the laptops that use them are considered compatible with Windows 8.  Now Intel may choose not to provide anymore support for the series, but as I've seen from Intel's support with the 6235 WiFi/BT card, there are differences between Win 7 & 8.  As such it would be more helpful to Intel's installed base, us, to admit that you are having technical difficulties even with your newer hardware in supporting all features under Windows 8.  It isn't like this is the first time that Hardware manufacturers have been left flatfooted by Microsoft software decisions in their OS.  So, simply admit the problems and try and resolve them one by one (Basic Engineering 101 BTW) and quit hiding behind political rhetoric which is best left to those not quite so intelligent folks who we have so wonderfully elected in Washington.

     

    Chris

  • 5. Re: Older integrated graphics drivers for Windows 8 : we need them
    mach128x Community Member
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    "If the Microsoft* Windows* 7 driver does not work, then is best if you use another operating system that it is supported."

    That wasn't really helpful.

     

     

    But rejoice because there are good news.

    Your own official Win 7 drivers work wonderfully under Win 8.

    You only need to install them using the "Have-a-disk" method.

    Simple as that.

     

    How hard would it have been to just put that in the FAQ ??? Geez.

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