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    <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:56:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: cluster size other that 4KB on Intel SSD</title>
      <link>http://communities.intel.com/message/158069?tstart=0#158069</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:84bc3b49-b222-4e31-93f9-12bd14b7a877] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;Hello,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;Almost two years later, I finally was able to satisfy my curiosity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;I got a new laptop, with to different SSDs installed (not Intel though).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;On five identical size partitions, except for the cluster sizes 4KB, 8KB, 16KB, 32KB and 64KB respectively, I ran CrystalDiskMark Seq and 512K random performance tests.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;Result:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;All indicated performance figures were within 1.5%, a difference which I consider to be smaller than the measurement accuracy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;And no trend in one way or another!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif';"&gt;Conclusion: I formatted all my partitions with 4KB cluster sizes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:84bc3b49-b222-4e31-93f9-12bd14b7a877] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:55:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>webadmin@intel.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.intel.com/message/158069?tstart=0#158069</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-06-04T15:55:15Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>11 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: cluster size other that 4KB on Intel SSD</title>
      <link>http://communities.intel.com/message/99997?tstart=0#99997</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ed5aca74-5beb-4cb8-838f-9a1d60acaae3] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The motivation for my original question is that I want to maximize the responsiveness of my W7 laptop.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I think I have to optimize it for large program and data files being loaded, small ones will load quickly anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I therefore generated my data and backup partitions to NTFS with 64KB clusters (unit=64k in diskpart parlance).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite many efforts, I did not succeed in changing the system partition's cluster size to anything greater than 4KB, neither before installation (diskpart), nor after installation (Partition Wizard Pro) which provides a "change cluster size" function.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Partition Wizard Pro's error message indicated that my system contains compressed files, files which can only be held in 4KB clusters.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I will do the next clean install, I will create a separate partition for the program files, partition which I can create with 64KB clusters.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for informing me about the alignment issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It turned out that my boot + system partition was not correctly aligned, even though I had used the diskpart align=1024 parameter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I finally succeded by omitting the align= parameter, in other words, W7 does align properly without any help from the user.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ed5aca74-5beb-4cb8-838f-9a1d60acaae3] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:40:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>webadmin@intel.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.intel.com/message/99997?tstart=0#99997</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-08-22T18:40:48Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: cluster size other that 4KB on Intel SSD</title>
      <link>http://communities.intel.com/message/99389?tstart=0#99389</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3f68f340-06ed-458a-8e89-842abbebc25e] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The referenced pdf reports of tests with workloads of various "block" sizes, but it does not compare various "cluster" sizes in e.g. NTFS.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3f68f340-06ed-458a-8e89-842abbebc25e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:35:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>webadmin@intel.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.intel.com/message/99389?tstart=0#99389</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-08-15T16:35:11Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>4</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: cluster size other that 4KB on Intel SSD</title>
      <link>http://communities.intel.com/message/99353?tstart=0#99353</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:adf1618a-9e9b-4bea-b55d-355d405b80fb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I read the post about PAT.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Alignment seems to be important for SSD performance, so I will use PAT if someone can provide it (the free offer does not exist any more).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;BTW, I have tried to do the right thing by using the align= parameter in diskpart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But my original question about cluster size other than 4KB is still unanswered.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:adf1618a-9e9b-4bea-b55d-355d405b80fb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:15:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>webadmin@intel.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.intel.com/message/99353?tstart=0#99353</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-08-15T07:15:53Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: cluster size other that 4KB on Intel SSD</title>
      <link>http://communities.intel.com/message/99303?tstart=0#99303</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:05dcc2a8-a652-4240-9455-90fced72326f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but can't you be any more precise with your reference?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:05dcc2a8-a652-4240-9455-90fced72326f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:06:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>webadmin@intel.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.intel.com/message/99303?tstart=0#99303</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-08-14T17:06:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>8</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>cluster size other that 4KB on Intel SSD</title>
      <link>http://communities.intel.com/message/99084?tstart=0#99084</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0692987f-5ef8-4dd9-9928-5089a827d767] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Most program and data files are much larger than they were when 4KB became the default value for cluster size.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I would like to know whether there is any inconvenience (other than wasting some space) in having 64KB clusters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;And what performance improvements could I expect while loading today&amp;#8217;s programs and data files.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;The information found on the Internet is rather conflicting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;But Intel certainly has solid measured results.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0692987f-5ef8-4dd9-9928-5089a827d767] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:31:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>webadmin@intel.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.intel.com/message/99084?tstart=0#99084</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-08-11T14:31:42Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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