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Re: Why are Windows 7 Users Running Toolbox Optimizer?

webadmin@intel.com — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:25:04 GMT

Since there were quite a few horror stories surrounding firmware 02HA and the corresponding Toolbox I made sure it didn't run more than once. (I never experienced any problems with 02HA though.)

Re: Why are Windows 7 Users Running Toolbox Optimizer?

webadmin@intel.com — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:16:24 GMT

Not much point in running the same tool as you do since the machine is a Lenovo T61 which has got it's SATA interface speed limited to 1,5 GB (even though it is a SATA 2 interface).

I'm using CrystalDiskMark to measure the disk performance (yeah I know it can't always be fully trusted) and the performance has stayed consistent ever since I installed firmware 02HA back in october 27. After installing 02HA I ran the optimizer once and that made a huge difference. I upgraded to firmware 02HD on december 2, no performance change. The second time ever I ran the optimizer was yesterday after installing ver 1.2 and that didn't change the performance at all either.

Re: Why are Windows 7 Users Running Toolbox Optimizer?

webadmin@intel.com — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:58:21 GMT

I have ICH8M in my laptop and TRIM works like a charm for me.

(Win 7 64-bit, AHCI, MS drivers and 160GB X25-M)

Experiences from the new version (1.2) of Toolbox

webadmin@intel.com — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:32:45 GMT

I installed it without any problems.

Running the optimizer took 10 minutes on my 160GB drive.

It didn't change the performance at all though (measured with CrystalDiskMark), on the other hand I didn't expect it to either since I'm using Windows 7 with TRIM enabled. You could say that it prooved that TRIM really works.

Re: new firmware released 02HD - experiences so far?

webadmin@intel.com — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:52:57 GMT

I decided to take the plunge and upgraded, so far so good.

I am running Windows 7 x64.

Re: Update from Intel's NAND Solutions Group - Firmware issue

webadmin@intel.com — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:59:09 GMT

You're probably right on that account, I just wanted to point out that SMART-data CAN be manipulated.

Re: Update from Intel's NAND Solutions Group - Firmware issue

webadmin@intel.com — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:37:08 GMT

Not quite true. There are products on the market that can manipulate just about anything on a drive, even S.M.A.R.T. data.

Check this out: http://www.deepspar.com/pdf/DeepSparPC-3000UDMABrochure8.0.pdf

Re: Intel SSD in windows 2003 servers

webadmin@intel.com — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:12 GMT

Windows 2003 R2 does not support TRIM, but Windows 2008 R2 does.

In a server you really should use X25-E, the X25-M will burn out pretty quickly from the constant write cycles in a server. Unfortuneately the X25-E is considerably more expensive than the X25-M, but it's faster than the X25-M and will last for ten times the number of write cycles.A plus is that it doesn't suffer as much from speed degradation over time either.

The X25-E doesn't support TRIM.

Re: Update from Intel's NAND Solutions Group - Toolbox issue

webadmin@intel.com — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:13:22 GMT

TRIM actually seems to work on my 160GB drive. I have now been using the new firmware for exactly three weeks and the performance of my drive hasn't dropped at a all (measured with CrystalDiskMark 2.2), if anything it's slightly improved.

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit RTM has been on the drive for almost 2 months. I'm using Microsofts AHCI-drivers and the BIOS was set to AHCI when upgrading the firmware. It was the Windows 7 installation that took care of the initial partitioning of the drive and it added the 100MB "System Reserved" partition.

The drive is even encrypted, using Bitlocker, and it was encrypted before upgrading the firmware.

I only ran Toolbox/Optimizer once, right after installing the new firmware. The Toolbox didn't schedule any future Optimizer sessions.

I must admit that I have been a bit scared the past weeks since it's my work computer and I really need it to be functioning well. I have read everything I could lay my hands on regarding TRIM and it really seems to be tricky implementing. Check out the discussions regarding problems and bad performance on Crucial's and OCZ's sites.

All in all I'm a happy SSD user but Intel really could have done a better job COMMUNICATING with it's customers!

Message was edited by: RollerBoy reason: typo

Re: Hello Intel? Information please!

webadmin@intel.com — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:12:49 GMT

Is the situation that bad, that you (Intel) don't know anything?